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Nov 24 2021 01:13am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 23 Nov 2021 22:52)
If it was that gray then he wouldn't have plead guilty. People with strong cases don't generally do that. Look at Kyle. He had a borderline case that depended on how the jury evaluated his actions. He fought it and won, and his case was much weaker than this guy's.


That's false also, why are you lying?

The statute for third degree rape clearly states that if the defendant "Had sexual intercourse with a person who is not able to give consent" then they're guilty. Under New York Law, women who are under the influence cannot consent. So, it was not an age thing, or a sleeping thing. Nor was it a non-consenting thing. It was a could not consent. Not saying no is still implied consent. The whole "you must get an affirmative yes ever 5 seconds" nonsense is NOT law... Yet.

That being said, she was inebriated, under the influence of both drugs and alcohol. There's no way whatsoever to fight that case. He was clearly guilty, under the statute. Thus, while he does not appear to have forcibly raped her, he committed rape by statute, aka Statutory Rape. And knowing that, based on how the statute itself is written, of course he pled guilty. Was she under the influence of drugs and alcohol? Yes. Does NY Law state that being under the influence makes women unable to consent? Yes. Therefore, by statute, was it rape? Yes. Done.

Now, what I want you to do, is pull a similar case up, relating to a black man, where it's only rape by statute, and show how much worse they got it. Just one will suffice. :)
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 24 2021 01:13am)
That's false also, why are you lying?

The statute for third degree rape clearly states that if the defendant "Had sexual intercourse with a person who is not able to give consent" then they're guilty. Under New York Law, women who are under the influence cannot consent. So, it was not an age thing, or a sleeping thing. Nor was it a non-consenting thing. It was a could not consent. Not saying no is still implied consent. The whole "you must get an affirmative yes ever 5 seconds" nonsense is NOT law... Yet.

That being said, she was inebriated, under the influence of both drugs and alcohol. There's no way whatsoever to fight that case. He was clearly guilty, under the statute. Thus, while he does not appear to have forcibly raped her, he committed rape by statute, aka Statutory Rape. And knowing that, based on how the statute itself is written, of course he pled guilty. Was she under the influence of drugs and alcohol? Yes. Does NY Law state that being under the influence makes women unable to consent? Yes. Therefore, by statute, was it rape? Yes. Done.

Now, what I want you to do, is pull a similar case up, relating to a black man, where it's only rape by statute, and show how much worse they got it. Just one will suffice. :)


Nobody has ever claimed you need to get consent every 5 seconds. However, you do have the right to withdraw consent at any time, and if you become unable to give consent then that means consent is automatically withdrawn. This whole "must constantly get consent" is a really creepy objection, because the left has been very consistent about it and was met with some pretty serious backlash for just bringing up that a passed out person can't give consent.

I don't really care what you want me to do. I can list dozens of white people and can't find a single case of a black person not getting jail time. The fact that it's trivial to find it happening to white people speaks for itself. If you want to disprove me then it's on you to find examples that refute my case. Go on, do your own homework. It's not that hard.
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Nov 24 2021 01:21am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 24 2021 01:52am)
If it was that gray then he wouldn't have plead guilty. People with strong cases don't generally do that. Look at Kyle. He had a borderline case that depended on how the jury evaluated his actions. He fought it and won, and his case was much weaker than this guy's.



Was he convicted?



You are joking right
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Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 24 2021 01:21am)
You are joking right


I can't find anything about it on google. I can only find articles relating to Rittenhouse, and his wiki doesn't say.
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Nobody has ever claimed you need to get consent every 5 seconds. However, you do have the right to withdraw consent at any time, and if you become unable to give consent then that means consent is automatically withdrawn. This whole "must constantly get consent" is a really creepy objection, because the left has been very consistent about it and was met with some pretty serious backlash for just bringing up that a passed out person can't give consent.

I don't really care what you want me to do. I can list dozens of white people and can't find a single case of a black person not getting jail time. The fact that it's trivial to find it happening to white people speaks for itself. If you want to disprove me then it's on you to find examples that refute my case. Go on, do your own homework. It's not that hard.


She didn't say no. She allowed him to strip her, strip in front of her, and fuck her, all without saying no, or struggling, at any point. She willingly went to his room with him in the middle of the night. Tell me, what do you think she thought was going to happen?

This is literally the case of the drunk girl getting laid, and feeling bad about it after. She never withdrew consent, because she never said no, struggled, or anything else. Further, his sister and others were in the home at the time, and one shout would have brought the pain on him.

The reason you can't find a similar case, where it's rape by statute only, and it's a black offender is because the news doesn't report on them. The news reports on every single one of these cases when the offender is white, and race hustlers like yourself immediately run to the "if he were black" argument. Rich/Poor/White/Black, I see no evidence that any other man would have received more or less of a sentence. He'll be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life, everyone knows his name, he'll have a hard time getting jobs, any place he moves to he'll be picketed... Punishment more than fits the crime.
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I can't find anything about it on google. I can only find articles relating to Rittenhouse, and his wiki doesn't say.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/for-every-jacob-blake-there-are-millions-of-jacob-blakes-victims?_amp=true

A little perspective for you.

You think Jacob Blake’s fucking wiki is going to tell you the truth about his criminal past? That says a LOT about how aware you are about the portrayal of racial issues.

At this point I do not want to continue this conversation with you unless you are willing to admit that this individual did some terrible things, would have done more terrible things if he didn’t get shot when he did, and allegedly did even more terrible things.
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Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 24 2021 01:55am)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/for-every-jacob-blake-there-are-millions-of-jacob-blakes-victims?_amp=true

A little perspective for you.

You think Jacob Blake’s fucking wiki is going to tell you the truth about his criminal past? That says a LOT about how aware you are about the portrayal of racial issues.

At this point I do not want to continue this conversation with you unless you are willing to admit that this individual did some terrible things, would have done more terrible things if he didn’t get shot when he did, and allegedly did even more terrible things.


I asked for someone who avoided jail, maybe I didn't make it explicit that it was after conviction, but that's the standard I've been using the whole thread.

Find me a convicted black guy who's guilty of a similar offense who avoided jail time.
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Nov 24 2021 02:02am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ 23 Nov 2021 23:55)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/for-every-jacob-blake-there-are-millions-of-jacob-blakes-victims?_amp=true

A little perspective for you.

You think Jacob Blake’s fucking wiki is going to tell you the truth about his criminal past? That says a LOT about how aware you are about the portrayal of racial issues.

At this point I do not want to continue this conversation with you unless you are willing to admit that this individual did some terrible things, would have done more terrible things if he didn’t get shot when he did, and allegedly did even more terrible things.


As I understand it he's "partially paralyzed" by his gunshot wounds. Do you know any further information than that? Is it even known that he will not continue his life of crime, at this point?

The way I understand it, they dropped the sexual assault charge and one other charge in exchange that he plead guilty on two counts of disorderly conduct (wtf?). Speaking of sweetheart deals.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 24 2021 03:00am)
I asked for someone who avoided jail, maybe I didn't make it explicit that it was after conviction, but that's the standard I've been using the whole thread.

Find me a convicted black guy who's guilty of a similar offense who avoided jail time.



You are unequivocally and indisputably an absolute fucking joke. Goodbye.


Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 24 2021 03:02am)
As I understand it he's "partially paralyzed" by his gunshot wounds. Do you know any further information than that? Is it even known that he will not continue his life of crime, at this point?

The way I understand it, they dropped the sexual assault charge and one other charge in exchange that he plead guilty on two counts of disorderly conduct (wtf?). Speaking of sweetheart deals.



He has basically transcended into sainthood (joke but only kind of) at this point so what would it even matter.
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Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 24 2021 02:07am)
You are unequivocally and indisputably an absolute fucking joke. Goodbye.

He has basically transcended into sainthood (joke but only kind of) at this point so what would it even matter.


Oh look, once again you can't back up your arguments so you rage and leave.
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