Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Nov 2021 19:24)
You said “ I support the cities getting their comeuppance” which is an acknowledgement that you endorse the tactic of destroying or not planting your crops if they are going to be taken to feed the people you oppose in the cities. Then you went on to say “all communism has going for it is a willingness to commit mass murder” but the people who committed that mass murder weren’t the communists or Stalin. They were farmers and anti-communists just like you. They destroyed their crops or didn’t plant them so that the communists couldn’t redistribute them to the cities where people were starving. The millions who died died because of farmers like you. You just admitted that you would do the exact same thing that the kulaks in ukraiane did in 1932 and 1933. So you now can never claim communists committed mass murder by starving their own people because you admitted that it was the farmers who did that.
Your basic assumption is that cities provide something of value to farms. My contention is simply that you're wrong. Why are you wrong? Because as it stands right now, cities only provide appliance production, machinery production, and power to farms. Power has become so spotty that a dam is the way to go, all production for farming equipment is now sourced from china, and that's the end of the line. Now, I can go and utilize the natural resources from the mountain next to me to build machines, except the government says I can't use those resources. What happens when you collapse that government? Now, I can produce my own equipment, my own power (since you can't tell me no), and my own food.
Quite literally, American Cities have become useless. You provide nothing to the true producers in America: The farmers. You want to talk about the Communist ideal, yet the communist ideal causes people to starve. And I just pointed out why. The first thing you have to do is convince me I should give up ownership of what is mine, which I refuse to do. Then you have to take it from me, usually by means of murder. I'm now dead, and you don't know how to do what I do. So now you bring thousands of people to my land to do what I alone did before. In the process of figuring out how to do it, millions die, because they have no source of food.
Do you start to understand, or should I type slower, because you don't read fast?
Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Nov 2021 19:28)
What’s the fundamental difference between a corporation with an executive and a board of directors with pinkertons, and an incorporated town with a mayor and council with cops then?
The Corporation has no local stake. The incorporated town has 100% of stake in the town. As a communist, you should honestly support the incorporated town, it's the closest thing in the modern world to true Communism, and the two of us could possibly agree on it's value.
This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 23 2021 09:32pm