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Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 23 2021 10:17pm)
Your first paragraph actually described anarchist and Marxist philosophy on governance. Trickle down economics are capitalist, not leftist. It’s interesting how much your definition of words influences your though. You think left is right and right is left. Because capitalist exploiters told you and you believed them.


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That's not capitalism. Capitalism doesn't impose taxes. Governmental systems, not market systems impose taxes.

Once again, child. :)


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Your first paragraph actually described anarchist and Marxist philosophy on governance. Trickle down economics are capitalist, not leftist. It’s interesting how much your definition of words influences your though. You think leftbis right and right is left.


False. My first paragraph described LOCAL GOVERNANCE. Not marxist, not anarchist. Marxists and Anarchists propose large government and no government respectively. Come on now, you're smarter than this?

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That's not capitalism. Capitalism doesn't impose taxes. Governmental systems, not market systems impose taxes.

Once again, child. :)


Capitalism requires enforcement of property rights, which requires taxes. It can't exist without a state.

This was acknowledged as far back as Locke. This is why anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron.

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Capitalism requires enforcement of property rights, which requires taxes. It can't exist without a state.

This was acknowledged as far back as Locke.


False premise. Capitalism requires that the owners of the capital enforce their own property rights. No government is needed. We can go all the way back to Corporate Scrip to understand just how blatantly STUPID your post is.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 23 2021 10:19pm)
Capitalism requires enforcement of property rights, which requires taxes. It can't exist without a state.

This was acknowledged as far back as Locke. This is why anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron.


interesting personally concocted definition that you prefer.

can your small mind not possibly comprehend a voluntarily funded system? oh that's right. every human is horrible so you need your marxism. which necessarily involves central planning by perfect human beings.. oh wait.. oops! err, is that 250 million dead? oopsy daisy! we'll do it better next time.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 07:14pm)
Go farm, and find out how you feel about people who believe that though they provide you nothing, they deserve 30% of the fruits of your labor. When you experience the theft, rather than benefit it, perhaps it'll be real.



I doubt every word you speak. Because if it were real, you would not in any way support communism. Anyone who believes farming at gunpoint with no right to your own produce is better than farming of your own will with all rights to your produce (or the 70% rights our socialist government allows) is clearly an idiot.

If indeed you are what you claim, justify your stance. Why should the farmer give their time, their soul, and their body to support the city, that in turn, provides nothing whatsoever to the farmer?



Don't read well, do you? I never said I'd stop my crops. I said I'd rather fight you than be your slave. There's nothing in that about stopping crops, now is there?



You said “ I support the cities getting their comeuppance” which is an acknowledgement that you endorse the tactic of destroying or not planting your crops if they are going to be taken to feed the people you oppose in the cities. Then you went on to say “all communism has going for it is a willingness to commit mass murder” but the people who committed that mass murder weren’t the communists or Stalin. They were farmers and anti-communists just like you. They destroyed their crops or didn’t plant them so that the communists couldn’t redistribute them to the cities where people were starving. The millions who died died because of farmers like you. You just admitted that you would do the exact same thing that the kulaks in ukraiane did in 1932 and 1933. So you now can never claim communists committed mass murder by starving their own people because you admitted that it was the farmers who did that.

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False premise. Capitalism requires that the owners of the capital enforce their own property rights. No government is needed. We can go all the way back to Corporate Scrip to understand just how blatantly STUPID your post is.

Do better.


What’s the fundamental difference between a corporation with an executive and a board of directors with pinkertons, and an incorporated town with a mayor and council with cops then?
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Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Nov 2021 19:24)
You said “ I support the cities getting their comeuppance” which is an acknowledgement that you endorse the tactic of destroying or not planting your crops if they are going to be taken to feed the people you oppose in the cities. Then you went on to say “all communism has going for it is a willingness to commit mass murder” but the people who committed that mass murder weren’t the communists or Stalin. They were farmers and anti-communists just like you. They destroyed their crops or didn’t plant them so that the communists couldn’t redistribute them to the cities where people were starving. The millions who died died because of farmers like you. You just admitted that you would do the exact same thing that the kulaks in ukraiane did in 1932 and 1933. So you now can never claim communists committed mass murder by starving their own people because you admitted that it was the farmers who did that.


Your basic assumption is that cities provide something of value to farms. My contention is simply that you're wrong. Why are you wrong? Because as it stands right now, cities only provide appliance production, machinery production, and power to farms. Power has become so spotty that a dam is the way to go, all production for farming equipment is now sourced from china, and that's the end of the line. Now, I can go and utilize the natural resources from the mountain next to me to build machines, except the government says I can't use those resources. What happens when you collapse that government? Now, I can produce my own equipment, my own power (since you can't tell me no), and my own food.

Quite literally, American Cities have become useless. You provide nothing to the true producers in America: The farmers. You want to talk about the Communist ideal, yet the communist ideal causes people to starve. And I just pointed out why. The first thing you have to do is convince me I should give up ownership of what is mine, which I refuse to do. Then you have to take it from me, usually by means of murder. I'm now dead, and you don't know how to do what I do. So now you bring thousands of people to my land to do what I alone did before. In the process of figuring out how to do it, millions die, because they have no source of food.

Do you start to understand, or should I type slower, because you don't read fast?

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What’s the fundamental difference between a corporation with an executive and a board of directors with pinkertons, and an incorporated town with a mayor and council with cops then?


The Corporation has no local stake. The incorporated town has 100% of stake in the town. As a communist, you should honestly support the incorporated town, it's the closest thing in the modern world to true Communism, and the two of us could possibly agree on it's value.

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