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Oct 15 2021 06:57pm
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 07:55pm)
It's a checks and balance thing, like how most of our gov is designed. However, there is a line that we must never alow to be crossed. In that crossing the whole thing falls apart.
Btw, that line is there to protect us all. It is literally what we have fought and died for. At least it was when i took the oath.


Exactly. Checks and balances. You get rights as long as you use them in allowed ways and not disallowed ways. Now you get it
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Oct 15 2021 07:09pm
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Exactly. Checks and balances. You get rights as long as you use them in allowed ways and not disallowed ways. Now you get it


Yes, so long as the line isn't crossed. Camps and forced isolation cross the line of Liberty and are unconstitutional and invalid.
But let's be honest it will be baby stepped down to mandatory vax, just like in Australia. Unless we stop it.

When a government is afraid of its people, you get liberty.
When the people are afraid of its government, you get tyranny.
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Oct 15 2021 07:48pm
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I took a nap and woke up to a bunch of triggered conservatives.


I think you should respond to his post seriously. He brought up a very good point. If you are claiming that nobody has any inherent rights then you should also be OK with white people stealing natives' land.
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Oct 15 2021 07:49pm
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Exactly. Checks and balances. You get rights as long as you use them in allowed ways and not disallowed ways. Now you get it


Except the entity deciding what are "allowed ways" and what aren't, is the left and the government that they support.

Very convenient.
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Oct 15 2021 07:51pm
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So your rights can be taken away as long as it goes through the legal system?


Rights are inherent (which is something that a lot of lefties have trouble comprehending). Any time they appear that they have been taken away, they are merely being trampled upon. Likely by a big government that you and people like you support.
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Oct 15 2021 07:55pm
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Your rights being inalienable are not in the constitution.


Whether rights are inalienable is a philosophical question, it's not a legal one. What the constitution does or doesn't say, does not enter into the equation at all.
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Oct 15 2021 07:58pm
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A vaccine is still very reasonable for you. More exposures = better immunity. The vaccination is still a reasonable step even if you've already been infected.


You don't get to determine what's reasonable or not.

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You are not willing to take reasonable steps, if the situation gets worse you will have your movements restricted. That is how it's always worked, and how it always will work, because rights come with responsibilities.


Prove that by not being vaccinated that we are being irresponsible. And once you have done that, you need to prove that by being supposedly irresponsible that means you and your beloved big government can take away our rights/restrict our movements.
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Oct 15 2021 08:01pm
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The evidence suggests that vaccination lowers spread, and by exposing yourself without being vaccinated you are more likely to contribute to overwhelming the healthcare system by not taking measures to prevent yourself from becoming sick.

And this justifies restricting people's movements.

Very interesting. Tell me more.
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Oct 16 2021 02:01pm
“Don’t ever come between a man and his meal. Taking away a man's livelihood away is akin to killing him.” - Dave Chappelle. Going to be interesting to see what actually happens once the OSHA mandate takes place.

Has OSHA even mentioned how they plan to enforce their mandate? I know some corporations have sent out emails to employees telling them that they need to be vaccinated by November w/e. However, there are even more who haven't mentioned a single thing to their employees.
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Oct 16 2021 02:48pm
Quote (S3th @ Oct 16 2021 01:01pm)
“Don’t ever come between a man and his meal. Taking away a man's livelihood away is akin to killing him.” - Dave Chappelle. Going to be interesting to see what actually happens once the OSHA mandate takes place.

Has OSHA even mentioned how they plan to enforce their mandate? I know some corporations have sent out emails to employees telling them that they need to be vaccinated by November w/e. However, there are even more who haven't mentioned a single thing to their employees.



OSHA violations come with pretty steep penalties, that’s the one place you don’t fuck with as a business
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