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Sep 11 2021 10:19am
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Sep 10 2021 03:25pm)
How many religious people do you know that abstain fully from consuming anything that another human had a hand in producing? The person rolling or packaging your sushi rolls may have dosed it with cyanide - this is an unknown.


Yes, but in the case of sushi rolls, people are making a voluntary decision to eat it. Any unknown risks there might be or might not be, it's theirs to take. But with the vaccines, there are also unknown risks, but people are being forced to take them.

Your "argument" is essentially this: yea sure, there are unknown risks in vaccines. But they also exist in a lot of other things too. Therefore, we get to make you take the vaccines.
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Sep 11 2021 10:21am
Quote (JessiWan @ 11 Sep 2021 12:19)
Yes, but in the case of sushi rolls, people are making a voluntary decision to eat it. Any unknown risks there might be or might not be, it's theirs to take. But with the vaccines, there are also unknown risks, but people are being forced to take them.

Your "argument" is essentially this: yea sure, there are unknown risks in vaccines. But they also exist in a lot of other things too. Therefore, we get to make you take the vaccines.


Replace sushi with food.
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These people who are so worried about their sacred genetic material... do they not shed dead cells like the rest of us?


Indeed people do shed dead cells naturally, but that doesn't mean you can now force them to hand over their dead cells to you by some sort of mandate or coercion.

If we go by your "logic", we can say, women get pregnant anyway. They do, indeed. Therefore, we get to rape them to make them pregnant. Hey, do women not get pregnant?

It's a matter of principle (which I do not expect you to understand). It's not about whether people's genetic material is "sacred" or not. But rather, my body, and anything on it, anything associated with it, is entirely mine and mine alone. Only I get to decide what to do with it. If you force me to hand over my cells, even though they are dead and it's something that is very easy to do, I can and should have the authority to tell you no. Why? Because it's my body and I have sole sovereignty over it.
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Sep 11 2021 10:28am
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Replace sushi with food.


Are you saying that you get to force people to take the vaccines because people already eat things that might have unknown risks?
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Sep 11 2021 10:30am
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Uh sending them all that shih beyond the first paragraph would probably make them call into question your judgment and status going forward, but the first part seems reasonable.


Thank you sir. I too thought the first paragraph was the best. And to be honest I thought the letter was a bit too long. Also the stuff after the 1st paragraph is not religious anymore.
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You still have body autonomy. You don’t have to get a vaccine.


This is a Hobson's choice. You are forcing people to choose between their job or the jab.

It's kind of like, when a dictator says to his subjects, "you can choose to obey me, or death". Technically, this *is* a choice. However I am sure you will agree with me that there is truly only choice that people can make.
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How does the submitter of this document not come off as pick and choosy in regards to where they're deciding to 'apply' their religion? Seems awfully convenient, and I think that is where this letter falls apart and doesn't come off as a legitimate religious reason, so I don't see how this can fall under religious protection/discrimination based on religion.

Especially when this isn't a steadfast rule of Christianity, as there are plenty of Christians getting the vaccine and that support vaccination.

Edit: My own counterpoint to my own above statements (from .gov link below). This might give it a leg to stand on, but its a gray area.
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Religious beliefs can include unique beliefs held by a few or even one individual; however, mere personal preferences are not religious beliefs.


Here's an interesting article regarding other applications of HEK293.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2021/01/if-any-drug-tested-on-hek-293-is-immoral-goodbye-modern-medicine/.

So you're also saying you've never had a headache and taken Tylenol/Advil/Aspirin/Aleve, for religious reasons? It just isn't believable.


I am not a lawyer, but a quick google can show a US law perspective (YMMV in other countries) https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/section-12-religious-discrimination#:~:text=Title%20VII%20requires%20employers%20to,undue%20hardship%20on%20the%20employer.

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Title VII requires employers to accommodate religious beliefs, practices and observances if the beliefs are “sincerely held” and the reasonable accommodation poses no undue hardship on the employer.


This may trump all

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How does the submitter of this document not come off as pick and choosy in regards to where they're deciding to 'apply' their religion? Seems awfully convenient, and I think that is where this letter falls apart and doesn't come off as a legitimate religious reason, so I don't see how this can fall under religious protection/discrimination based on religion.

Especially when this isn't a steadfast rule of Christianity, as there are plenty of Christians getting the vaccine and that support vaccination.

Edit: My own counterpoint to my own above statements (from .gov link below). This might give it a leg to stand on, but its a gray area.


Here's an interesting article regarding other applications of HEK293.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2021/01/if-any-drug-tested-on-hek-293-is-immoral-goodbye-modern-medicine/.

So you're also saying you've never had a headache and taken Tylenol/Advil/Aspirin/Aleve, for religious reasons? It just isn't believable.


I am not a lawyer, but a quick google can show a US law perspective (YMMV in other countries) https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/section-12-religious-discrimination#:~:text=Title%20VII%20requires%20employers%20to,undue%20hardship%20on%20the%20employer.



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Sep 11 2021 11:53am
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 11 2021 11:58am)
This is a Hobson's choice. You are forcing people to choose between their job or the jab.

It's kind of like, when a dictator says to his subjects, "you can choose to obey me, or death". Technically, this *is* a choice. However I am sure you will agree with me that there is truly only choice that people can make.


I like this line of thinking, because it highlights how capitalism has been tooled to screw everybody over. You have a choice between participating in capitalism or starving. There's basically nowhere else to go in the entire world. Now, that's not to say that means you have some inherent right to enforce your economic system on everybody else, but it is to say that the idea that capitalism allows choice is fundamentally false.
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