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Sep 5 2021 03:34pm
Quote (penguinhero @ Sep 5 2021 02:33pm)
Why do you think they want this? How does the gov't benefit from its population being infertile?


I don't know if I can truthfully answer this question without breaking forum rules.

Anyway, if you want, I can give you my personal email addy and I will tell you in there.
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Sep 5 2021 03:36pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 02:33pm)
I trust them, but not "blindly".

When the governments start to act in a way that shows they care about the populaces, that's when I will stop saying, "don't trust your governments blindly".


Well, I have a few questions for you then:

1. Why do you think 90+% of folks ending up in ICUs due to acute Covid illness are unvaccinated?

2. Do you believe that world leaders and doctors who have claimed to be vaccinated are actually not vaccinated?

3. If they are indeed vaccinated, and you believe the government both knows that they cause infertility and want their populace to be infertile (a point penguinhero brings up), why would they want to make themselves infertile too?
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Sep 5 2021 03:37pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 02:34pm)
I don't know if I can truthfully answer this question without breaking forum rules.

Anyway, if you want, I can give you my personal email addy and I will tell you in there.


As long as you don't talk about unisex bathrooms, you'll be fine here.
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Sep 5 2021 03:43pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 5 2021 02:36pm)
Well, I have a few questions for you then:

1. Why do you think 90+% of folks ending up in ICUs due to acute Covid illness are unvaccinated?


I don't know where you got this piece of stat from, but if it's from a major news outlet, I don't trust it.
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2. Do you believe that world leaders and doctors who have claimed to be vaccinated are actually not vaccinated?


I have no way of knowing. All I am doing is point out that there is no way for us the average people to verify this. This is a fact.

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3. If they are indeed vaccinated, and you believe the government both knows that they cause infertility and want their populace to be infertile (a point penguinhero brings up), why would they want to make themselves infertile too?

Assuming that these leaders are vaccinated (which we don't know and will never truly find out for sure), maybe it's because they have been lied to. They truly believe that the vaccines will keep them safe? Who knows.

And there is also the possibility that they lied about being vaccinated.
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Sep 5 2021 03:48pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 02:43pm)
I don't know where you got this piece of stat from, but if it's from a major news outlet, I don't trust it.


Would you trust it if I got it from a webforum?
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Sep 5 2021 03:49pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 5 2021 02:48pm)
Would you trust it if I got it from a webforum?


There is no need for your snark.
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Sep 5 2021 03:49pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 05:34pm)
I don't know if I can truthfully answer this question without breaking forum rules.

Anyway, if you want, I can give you my personal email addy and I will tell you in there.


lol it's all good. I'm just trying to engage in forum discussion. I think that a 1v1 conversation would head down a rabbit hole that quite frankly I don't think we'd see eye to eye on and probably wouldn't last very long. Right now I'm drinkin' a beer and shootin the shit.

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I trust them, but not "blindly".

When the governments start to act in a way that shows they care about the populaces, that's when I will stop saying, "don't trust your governments blindly".


But again, governments will care about populaces, until the cons start outweighing the pros. For the western world, I personally don't believe that to be the case, but I think you likely believe the opposite. Though I do believe overpopulation is a problem for the future of the planet in general, I don't believe a country would cut back on its own population "for the sake of the planet", and would do it for other motivational reasons (you should share what you think this gov't motivation is :) ). Just look at Japan, they're begging their people to start fucking.
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Sep 5 2021 03:50pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 02:49pm)
There is no need for your snark.


It's a genuine question because increasingly it seems that you'll deem any source as untrustworthy if it comes from a media outlet, government institution (CDC), or even a hospital network. Thus far, according to your posts, the only source of information that you've found to be trustworthy is online webforums.

There's no snark.
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Sep 5 2021 03:53pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 5 2021 05:50pm)
It's a genuine question because increasingly it seems that you'll deem any source as untrustworthy if it comes from a media outlet, government institution (CDC), or even a hospital network. Thus far, according to your posts, the only source of information that you've found to be trustworthy is online webforums.

There's no snark.


He's an anti-semite, which is why he doesn't trust any source.
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Sep 5 2021 03:53pm
Quote (ShadowGodzz @ Sep 5 2021 03:58pm)
You have no real way of telling how many people would actually die from this. So nice made up number coming from the person who keeps preaching about scientific conclusions.


We actually have very good ways to estimate how many people would die. The mortality rate among people who get covid but can't get treatment is about 2%.

If you had been paying attention at any time during the past 18 months you would know this, but you're not actually interested in learning. Just preaching conspiracy garbage.
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