Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 10:12am)

Yep, and people won't scam other people without good reason, hence whey there's never any scammer accusations. People won't falsely claim to be a minority for educational funding. People won't falsely claim injury to win a civil lawsuit.

People act in their own financial best interests. Right now, it's in the financial best interests of hospitals and pharmaceutical companies for covid to be everywhere, constant, and for vaccines not to be reliable long term without boosters.

It's also in the best power interests of politicians to treat Covid like airborne Ebola, when it's anything but. Covid is a simple cold or less to 99% of those who get it, just like the flu. And just like the flu, those with comorbidities are at high risk of complications up to and including death.

Wait for the mandate power to go away and the financial incentive to go away and covid will wane, flu will "come back", and then it'll just be a hurry up and wait for the next "world ending" cold to come along. :)



Don't need a "conspiracy". If there's financial incentive, people will take advantage of it. This has always been the case. There's no financial incentive in the flu, there is in Covid, so the Flu doesn't exist in quantity anymore. It's a simple thing.

Quote (theCrossbones @ 28 Aug 2021 10:23)

damn when you get stuck on one of your theories somebody could literally prove you wrong to the T and you would keep going about some small aspect of it like literally forever.
The fact that you think distancing and masks etc. don't help reduce ANY virus' spread is pretty funny.
And if you think there millions of cases of flu that are being mis-labeled shows your are not really in public having to work through this shit storm. Yes people are still catching colds, allergies etc. it is CLEARLY less but not every Dr. is claiming it as COVID to get a direct gov't check signed by Sleepy Joe. IT'S NOT HAPPENING like you keep saying.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 12:27pm)

If masks and social distancing worked, why is Covid still a problem? Why, during the absolute harshest lockdowns and mandates in the US, did Covid continue to spread like wildfire?

Turns out cold and flu viruses are incredibly contagious, and highly resilient, and a simple mask and 6 foot rule isn't really going to be effective in preventing them.

By the same note, using your own logic, areas where there were no mask mandates or lockdowns should still be seeing the same rates of flu cases as any other year. Yet they aren't. Why?

As I said, incentive. :)

Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 28 2021 10:23am)

damn when you get stuck on one of your theories somebody could literally prove you wrong to the T and you would keep going about some small aspect of it like literally forever.
The fact that you think distancing and masks etc. don't help reduce ANY virus' spread is pretty funny.
And if you think there millions of cases of flu that are being mis-labeled shows your are not really in public having to work through this shit storm. Yes people are still catching colds, allergies etc. it is CLEARLY less but not every Dr. is claiming it as COVID to get a direct gov't check signed by Sleepy Joe. IT'S NOT HAPPENING like you keep saying.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 10:27am)

If masks and social distancing worked, why is Covid still a problem? Why, during the absolute harshest lockdowns and mandates in the US, did Covid continue to spread like wildfire?

Turns out cold and flu viruses are incredibly contagious, and highly resilient, and a simple mask and 6 foot rule isn't really going to be effective in preventing them.

By the same note, using your own logic, areas where there were no mask mandates or lockdowns should still be seeing the same rates of flu cases as any other year. Yet they aren't. Why?

As I said, incentive. :)

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 28 Aug 2021 10:31)

Lockdowns are initiated when spread gets bad. So no matter what spread will coincide with Lockdowns, same as hospitals have sick people.

Quote (theCrossbones @ 28 Aug 2021 10:37)

who said it was a cure all? I said HELP like 3 times already.. Clearly its not 100% effective. Jesus..

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 12:37pm)

Um... Lockdowns in the US are a new thing, dude. Tell me, when was the last medically related "lockdown" pre-covid? When was the last time the US quarantined the healthy?

Really curious here. Just as I'm curious how Covid is such a terrible thing. Like, death and lasting illness/injury for the young and healthy is almost nil. Unlike say the 1918 Flu, where children were dying in large numbers.

And there was no "national lockdown" at any time in the US. There are areas of the US where there were never any lockdowns at all, nor mask mandates. Where are their flu cases? Once again, by the reasoning that masks and lockdowns and such work to eliminate the flu (LOL), those areas should not have seen such a reduction.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 28 Aug 2021 10:40)

When you have nothing just do the ol Gish Gallop. Spew as many unrelated points as possible to give the appearance that your opponent can't answer them.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 28 2021 12:50pm)

Looking in the mirror, there? You can't answer why the flu miraculously disappeared. You've made erroneous statements such as "everyone is tested for the flu in hospitals", "The Flu is less contagious". All just nonsense. Hospitals do not and never have required flu tests for all patients. Nothing you're saying is remotely relevant to this topic at all.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 28 Aug 2021 17:50)

Looking in the mirror, there? You can't answer why the flu miraculously disappeared. You've made erroneous statements such as "everyone is tested for the flu in hospitals", "The Flu is less contagious". All just nonsense. Hospitals do not and never have required flu tests for all patients. Nothing you're saying is remotely relevant to this topic at all.