Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 10:10)
I'm all for vaccination.
I will repeat for you
Wearing a mask reduces the chances of transmitting covid.
The irony of you telling me not to tell people what to do.
Why do you think they are still wearing masks indoors in Israel?
Israel have done well with vaccinations. They are a special case.
Small land mass. High population density. Small population. Very strict border controls even before covid.
You keep saying how masks don't work. If nobody had worn a mask. Many, many more people would have been infected. Infection rates would have been higher, and health services would have been overwhelmed.
I'm not saying masks prevent covid. The reduce covid transmission.
Your claiming vaccinated people can't transmit covid. Which I believe is not true. Most vaccines prevent severe illness. They don't always prevent transmission.
"How many cases if smallpox"? :rofl:
So by your logic. Since smallpox was eradicated after decades of inoculation, a completely different virus won't be transmissable after vaccination?
Absurd dude.
Israel is not a "special case", they're simply a tiny nation with a tiny population and enough wealth to afford vaccines for the entire population. Yet they still have only managed to vaccinate just over 5 million of their 9 million population. The US has fully vaccinated (both doses), 84 million people, aka 1/3rd of all adults in the nation, with some 140 million total people having had at least 1 dose (40% of the overall population).
Masks reducing the chances of transmitting something is virtually meaningless. Why? Because while masking, over 157 MILLION people caught covid and over 3 MILLION people died from covid. And where was transmission of covid highest? In hospitals and nursing homes, where mask usage was strictly enforced, and surgical grade. So, why would you be wasting hours of your time promoting mask usage? Honest question, not rhetorical.
We have a vaccine. It's freely available to anyone who wants it. Promote the vaccine. And what're the two best promotional tools of promoting the vaccine? The removal of mask mandates and lockdowns. Done. So when you're sat there talking crazy bullshit like keep wearing your masks, non science deniers are out getting vaccinated and getting back to normal life, or simply accepting the risk of the virus, and getting back or continuing on with normal life.
But I'll tell you what: You want the people around you to wear masks? Pay for their masks. And not cloth rags that're going to become so full of nasty viruses and bacteria by the end of the workday that the wearer ends up getting sick from having a petri dish in contact with their mouth. No, disposable surgery masks. Not just one or two. Boxes, yes? Because every time a mask gets dirty or damaged or you touch it without having first washed your hands, it's supposed to be replaced. After eating, drinking, using the restroom, coughing, sneezing, and any number of other activities, as after each of these activities, the mask is now contaminated, and potentially harmful to both yourself and others.
What's that? You don't want to pay for proper masks for other people? You're just sat there demanding other people do what you want so that you'll "feel safe" over complete inanities?
Yeah, just stop promoting masks, promote the vaccines, call it good. Science will at least be on your side.
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 10:10)
Your claiming vaccinated people can't transmit covid. Which I believe is not true. Most vaccines prevent severe illness. They don't always prevent transmission.
What on earth are you basing this on? I never claimed anything at all. YOU claimed that those who've received vaccinations can still transmit covid. I stated flat out that this claim has NOT been verified by any factual data. The WHO, CDC, and doctors are NOT claiming this. That's YOUR claim. If you wish to be taken seriously, how about you find some actual data to back up that claim, or stop spreading it around.
This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 25 2021 11:42am