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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 01:12pm)
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A complete moron.
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MASKS CAUSE DEATHS

Three Children Dead in one week
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IZzS6dApSm0d/

2 Chinese boys die while wearing face masks in gym class ...
www.nydailynews.com › coronavirus › ny-coronavirus...
May 7, 2020 — Two schoolboys in China reportedly collapsed and suddenly died within a week of each other after they were forced to participate in gym class ...

AMERICAN KID COLLAPSES WEARING MASK | MOTHER FLY'S IN TO A RAGE.. " WAKE THE FUCK UP NOW AMERICA "
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Vnf9dTekELdf/

4 Year Old Child Almost Killed From Mask Mandate - Dr. Eric Nepute
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Lk8Ski7y3lu/
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Apr 25 2021 11:37am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 10:10)
I'm all for vaccination.

I will repeat for you
Wearing a mask reduces the chances of transmitting covid.

The irony of you telling me not to tell people what to do.

Why do you think they are still wearing masks indoors in Israel?

Israel have done well with vaccinations. They are a special case.
Small land mass. High population density. Small population. Very strict border controls even before covid.

You keep saying how masks don't work. If nobody had worn a mask. Many, many more people would have been infected. Infection rates would have been higher, and health services would have been overwhelmed.

I'm not saying masks prevent covid. The reduce covid transmission.

Your claiming vaccinated people can't transmit covid. Which I believe is not true. Most vaccines prevent severe illness. They don't always prevent transmission.

"How many cases if smallpox"? :rofl:

So by your logic. Since smallpox was eradicated after decades of inoculation, a completely different virus won't be transmissable after vaccination?

Absurd dude.


Israel is not a "special case", they're simply a tiny nation with a tiny population and enough wealth to afford vaccines for the entire population. Yet they still have only managed to vaccinate just over 5 million of their 9 million population. The US has fully vaccinated (both doses), 84 million people, aka 1/3rd of all adults in the nation, with some 140 million total people having had at least 1 dose (40% of the overall population).

Masks reducing the chances of transmitting something is virtually meaningless. Why? Because while masking, over 157 MILLION people caught covid and over 3 MILLION people died from covid. And where was transmission of covid highest? In hospitals and nursing homes, where mask usage was strictly enforced, and surgical grade. So, why would you be wasting hours of your time promoting mask usage? Honest question, not rhetorical.

We have a vaccine. It's freely available to anyone who wants it. Promote the vaccine. And what're the two best promotional tools of promoting the vaccine? The removal of mask mandates and lockdowns. Done. So when you're sat there talking crazy bullshit like keep wearing your masks, non science deniers are out getting vaccinated and getting back to normal life, or simply accepting the risk of the virus, and getting back or continuing on with normal life.

But I'll tell you what: You want the people around you to wear masks? Pay for their masks. And not cloth rags that're going to become so full of nasty viruses and bacteria by the end of the workday that the wearer ends up getting sick from having a petri dish in contact with their mouth. No, disposable surgery masks. Not just one or two. Boxes, yes? Because every time a mask gets dirty or damaged or you touch it without having first washed your hands, it's supposed to be replaced. After eating, drinking, using the restroom, coughing, sneezing, and any number of other activities, as after each of these activities, the mask is now contaminated, and potentially harmful to both yourself and others.

What's that? You don't want to pay for proper masks for other people? You're just sat there demanding other people do what you want so that you'll "feel safe" over complete inanities?

Yeah, just stop promoting masks, promote the vaccines, call it good. Science will at least be on your side.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 10:10)
Your claiming vaccinated people can't transmit covid. Which I believe is not true. Most vaccines prevent severe illness. They don't always prevent transmission.


What on earth are you basing this on? I never claimed anything at all. YOU claimed that those who've received vaccinations can still transmit covid. I stated flat out that this claim has NOT been verified by any factual data. The WHO, CDC, and doctors are NOT claiming this. That's YOUR claim. If you wish to be taken seriously, how about you find some actual data to back up that claim, or stop spreading it around.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 25 2021 11:42am
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Apr 25 2021 11:43am
Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 06:30pm)
MASKS CAUSE DEATHS

Three Children Dead in one week
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IZzS6dApSm0d/

2 Chinese boys die while wearing face masks in gym class ...
www.nydailynews.com › coronavirus › ny-coronavirus...
May 7, 2020 — Two schoolboys in China reportedly collapsed and suddenly died within a week of each other after they were forced to participate in gym class ...

AMERICAN KID COLLAPSES WEARING MASK | MOTHER FLY'S IN TO A RAGE.. " WAKE THE FUCK UP NOW AMERICA "
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Vnf9dTekELdf/

4 Year Old Child Almost Killed From Mask Mandate - Dr. Eric Nepute
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Lk8Ski7y3lu/


What is it about masks that are killing people?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 25 2021 11:43am
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 25 2021 06:37pm)
Israel is not a "special case", they're simply a tiny nation with a tiny population and enough wealth to afford vaccines for the entire population. Yet they still have only managed to vaccinate just over 5 million of their 9 million population. The US has fully vaccinated (both doses), 84 million people, aka 1/3rd of all adults in the nation, with some 140 million total people having had at least 1 dose (40% of the overall population).

Masks reducing the chances of transmitting something is virtually meaningless. Why? Because while masking, over 157 MILLION people caught covid and over 3 MILLION people died from covid. And where was transmission of covid highest? In hospitals and nursing homes, where mask usage was strictly enforced, and surgical grade. So, why would you be wasting hours of your time promoting mask usage? Honest question, not rhetorical.

We have a vaccine. It's freely available to anyone who wants it. Promote the vaccine. And what're the two best promotional tools of promoting the vaccine? The removal of mask mandates and lockdowns. Done. So when you're sat there talking crazy bullshit like keep wearing your masks, non science deniers are out getting vaccinated and getting back to normal life, or simply accepting the risk of the virus, and getting back or continuing on with normal life.

But I'll tell you what: You want the people around you to wear masks? Pay for their masks. And not cloth rags that're going to become so full of nasty viruses and bacteria by the end of the workday that the wearer ends up getting sick from having a petri dish in contact with their mouth. No, disposable surgery masks. Not just one or two. Boxes, yes? Because every time a mask gets dirty or damaged or you touch it without having first washed your hands, it's supposed to be replaced. After eating, drinking, using the restroom, coughing, sneezing, and any number of other activities, as after each of these activities, the mask is now contaminated, and potentially harmful to both yourself and others.

What's that? You don't want to pay for proper masks for other people? You're just sat there demanding other people do what you want so that you'll "feel safe" over complete inanities?

Yeah, just stop promoting masks, promote the vaccines, call it good. Science will at least be on your side.



What on earth are you basing this on? I never claimed anything at all. YOU claimed that those who've received vaccinations can still transmit covid. I stated flat out that this claim has NOT been verified by any factual data. The WHO, CDC, and doctors are NOT claiming this. That's YOUR claim. If you wish to be taken seriously, how about you find some actual data to back up that claim, or stop spreading it around.


Mask don't stop covid transmission. They reduce the chances of transmission.

That is a valid enough reason to wear one.
We are from eradicating covid with vaccines. I know that's not what you want to hear, but this reality.


"After eating, drinking, using the restroom, coughing, sneezing, and any number of other activities, as after each of these activities, the mask is now contaminated, and potentially harmful to both yourself and others"

What is the mask contaminated with?


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Apr 25 2021 11:54am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Apr 25 2021 10:43am)
What is it about masks that are killing people?


bacterial pneumonia is one of the more deadlier risks

masks cause a increase in co2 and a decrease in o2. it gets worse as activity goes up. bullied kids just dont know enough or are to scared to take their mask off. its asinine and child abuse to bully kids into wearing masks and masks dont protect from covid.

you dont see football players wearing masks when they are playing and they are in top physical condition, that should tell you something

also
dr fraudi the biggest mask clown out their an old fraud at the game
H1N1 Epidemic - Lies and Profiteering
https://www.bitchute.com/video/afiB7jgNFp4o/

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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 08:36am)
naw thats just your "opinion" and your opinion suks. :)


The nice thing about countering someone's opinion is that all you need is another opinion.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Apr 2021 10:52)
Mask don't stop covid transmission. They reduce the chances of transmission.

That is a valid enough reason to wear one.
We are from eradicating covid with vaccines. I know that's not what you want to hear, but this reality.


"After eating, drinking, using the restroom, coughing, sneezing, and any number of other activities, as after each of these activities, the mask is now contaminated, and potentially harmful to both yourself and others"

What is the mask contaminated with?


A box of 50 Surgical face masks run roughly $10 on Amazon. There are 7 Billion people on the planet, give or take. Assuming just 5 masks per person per day, and masking having already lasted a year, that would indicate 36.5 boxes of masks needed per person. So, you want everyone to wear masks properly go ahead and spit out the $255 Billion to provide everyone the free masks to see them through the next year, yeah?

I don't care if you wear a mask or don't. You have no business telling anyone else they should unless you intend to freely provide the masks to be used. Once again, Israel has ended the outside mask mandates, and reduced or removed inside mandates depending on the type of business. And yet once again, their new cases have floored.

When you touch a mask without having washed your hands, anything that is on your hands is now contaminating the mask. Further, it's contaminating the outside of your mask, so whatever contaminate you just infected that mask with is actively being spread every time you exhale. Likewise, when you cough and sneeze, you're making the mask wet while at the same time covering it with bacteria and viruses that are now going to grow in the moist environment you just created for them. Wearing a mask into restrooms ends up contaminating them with feces and urine, both of which, ironically, contain the virus (if the person they're expelled from was infected). When you remove your mask to eat or drink, you are contaminating the mask.

Once again, you don't know the science, you aren't considering anything other than what makes you "feel safe". I don't care if you feel safe. Your feelings are your problem, not mine. I don't care if you get the virus. That is, again, your problem. Not mine. Everyone dies. Everyone. If the virus punches your ticket, oh well. No, everyone else shouldn't reduce the quality of their life to make you "feel safe". You're not safe. You ARE going to die. As is everyone else. The idea that people should change their entire lifestyle over your feelings, which are completely unbacked by science, is outright nonsense.

Masks are so effective, in fact, that healthcare workers who DO wear them properly and replace them regularly are among the highest when it comes to infection rate: https://www.registerednursing.org/articles/cdc-estimates-nurse-healthcare-worker-covid19-cases-likely-understated/

Masks do not prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way. Vaccines, on the other hand, using the case study of Israel, appear to be VERY effective. And, they're "free" because the public has already financed them.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 25 2021 11:10am)
A box of 50 Surgical face masks run roughly $10 on Amazon. There are 7 Billion people on the planet, give or take. Assuming just 5 masks per person per day, and masking having already lasted a year, that would indicate 36.5 boxes of masks needed per person. So, you want everyone to wear masks properly go ahead and spit out the $255 Billion to provide everyone the free masks to see them through the next year, yeah?

I don't care if you wear a mask or don't. You have no business telling anyone else they should unless you intend to freely provide the masks to be used. Once again, Israel has ended the outside mask mandates, and reduced or removed inside mandates depending on the type of business. And yet once again, their new cases have floored.

When you touch a mask without having washed your hands, anything that is on your hands is now contaminating the mask. Further, it's contaminating the outside of your mask, so whatever contaminate you just infected that mask with is actively being spread every time you exhale. Likewise, when you cough and sneeze, you're making the mask wet while at the same time covering it with bacteria and viruses that are now going to grow in the moist environment you just created for them. Wearing a mask into restrooms ends up contaminating them with feces and urine, both of which, ironically, contain the virus (if the person they're expelled from was infected). When you remove your mask to eat or drink, you are contaminating the mask.

Once again, you don't know the science, you aren't considering anything other than what makes you "feel safe". I don't care if you feel safe. Your feelings are your problem, not mine. I don't care if you get the virus. That is, again, your problem. Not mine. Everyone dies. Everyone. If the virus punches your ticket, oh well. No, everyone else shouldn't reduce the quality of their life to make you "feel safe". You're not safe. You ARE going to die. As is everyone else. The idea that people should change their entire lifestyle over your feelings, which are completely unbacked by science, is outright nonsense.

Masks are so effective, in fact, that healthcare workers who DO wear them properly and replace them regularly are among the highest when it comes to infection rate: https://www.registerednursing.org/articles/cdc-estimates-nurse-healthcare-worker-covid19-cases-likely-understated/

Masks do not prevent the spread of Covid in any meaningful way. Vaccines, on the other hand, using the case study of Israel, appear to be VERY effective. And, they're "free" because the public has already financed them.


cases go up and down with flu season
it is estimated 1.5 billion masks already pollute the ocean
masks have toxins in them due to treatment and/of recycled plastics
turns out the super duper green people are the biggest polluters :)
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 25 2021 06:54pm)
bacterial pneumonia is one of the more deadlier risks

masks cause a increase in co2 and a decrease in o2. it gets worse as activity goes up. bullied kids just dont know enough or are to scared to take their mask off. its asinine and child abuse to bully kids into wearing masks and masks dont protect from covid.

you dont see football players wearing masks when they are playing and they are in top physical condition, that should tell you something

also
dr fraudi the biggest mask clown out their an old fraud at the game
H1N1 Epidemic - Lies and Profiteering
https://www.bitchute.com/video/afiB7jgNFp4o/


"masks cause a increase in co2 and a decrease in o2. it gets worse as activity goes up. bullied kids just dont know enough or are to scared to take their mask off. its asinine and child abuse to bully kids into wearing masks and masks dont protect from covid"

What I've read, is that this is a myth.

The point about pneumonia is valid and I accept there is a I increased risk of that. However it is very low and only prevalent in people with pre existing respiratory issues.

"you dont see football players wearing masks when they are playing and they are in top physical condition, that should tell you something"

I imagine athletes are vigorously tested, they will also be in closed bubbles and not have contact with people outside of those.
So there is still the risk of transmission but likely much lower than contact with a stranger. It's also a strawman sir.

What is it that those kids you say died due to masks, died of precisely?

There is mitigated risk in everything. It's similar to those vaccine deniers saying that there are a chance of bloodclots with the AstraZeneca vaccine.
There is a higher chance of blood clots during pregnancy.
Also getting covid is far more dangerous than getting a nloodclot in most hut the most severe cases.

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