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Mar 10 2021 12:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Mar 2021 09:39)
and yet many people in america have a disconnect between how healthy they think they are and how unhealthy they are in reality. and many people are jaded about how overweight they are, and are in need of shaming.

ive been against universal healthcare for years, not based on freedom, but the unhealthy reality that most americans live in.


Here we can fully agree. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against "fat shaming". I merely stress the difference between body fat percentage and BMI. One matters, the other doesn't.

Body positivity movements are... Well... Cancer. Making people feel comfortable that they have 40% body fat is not a good thing, and encourages an unhealthy population. On the flipside, shaming someone for being "overweight" when they're lean as a whipcord is stupid as well.

As with Matt pulling a stupid earlier by claiming only 31% of Americans are healthy based on BMI statistics, when according to those same statistics, only 33% of Australians are "healthy" my only intent was to stress the point that no doctor judges their patient by BMI. BMI isn't a "health indicator" outside the extremes.

And 100% agree on the universal healthcare bit. Especially with "body positivity" movements and other such that actively promote unhealthy lifestyles, the complete lack of any tax or control measures for sodas and other harmful overly consumed products... Universal healthcare, as a concept, would simply be another step towards bankrupting the US taxpayer.
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Mar 10 2021 12:09pm
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Here we can fully agree. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against "fat shaming". I merely stress the difference between body fat percentage and BMI. One matters, the other doesn't.

Body positivity movements are... Well... Cancer. Making people feel comfortable that they have 40% body fat is not a good thing, and encourages an unhealthy population. On the flipside, shaming someone for being "overweight" when they're lean as a whipcord is stupid as well.

As with Matt pulling a stupid earlier by claiming only 31% of Americans are healthy based on BMI statistics, when according to those same statistics, only 33% of Australians are "healthy" my only intent was to stress the point that no doctor judges their patient by BMI. BMI isn't a "health indicator" outside the extremes.

And 100% agree on the universal healthcare bit. Especially with "body positivity" movements and other such that actively promote unhealthy lifestyles, the complete lack of any tax or control measures for sodas and other harmful overly consumed products... Universal healthcare, as a concept, would simply be another step towards bankrupting the US taxpayer.


people are fat, people are stupid, so putting the two together people need to be told in the simplest terms that they're fat.

height and weight are about as easy of a way to do this as you can dream up. tell the average walmart customer how unhealthy they are with blood sugar readings, body fat content, an eco result on their heart, and anything else and they'd get so lost that they just wander back over to the coke fridge and drink away the sensation of thought with sugary goodness.

some day there will be a full body scanning machine, you walk in, scan, you walk out. and on the other side it will have a green check mark and a red x. because if it spit out an actual diagnostic most people wouldnt climb in.
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Mar 10 2021 12:13pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Mar 2021 10:09)
people are fat, people are stupid, so putting the two together people need to be told in the simplest terms that they're fat.

height and weight are about as easy of a way to do this as you can dream up. tell the average walmart customer how unhealthy they are with blood sugar readings, body fat content, an eco result on their heart, and anything else and they'd get so lost that they just wander back over to the coke fridge and drink away the sensation of thought with sugary goodness.

some day there will be a full body scanning machine, you walk in, scan, you walk out. and on the other side it will have a green check mark and a red x. because if it spit out an actual diagnostic most people wouldnt climb in.


Depressing thought. "Idiocracy wasn't a movie, it was a well-modeled prediction of the future."
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Mar 10 2021 12:17pm
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Depressing thought. "Idiocracy wasn't a movie, it was a well-modeled prediction of the future."


robots are replacing humans as the form of production. eventually only the rich will be smart enough to do anything but consume Netflix in a govt provided apartment where a box of food rations shows up each month.

im not one for the whole Democrat ran New World Order, but the end result is closer to that than what most people think is our future.

Automation is going to burn the world as we know it to the ground, and the cattle that are left in human form will sign up to have their reproductive organs disabled for an extra govt stipend.

100 years? maybe more. but my children and their children will know how to produce food of their own on land we own to avoid becoming just another meat sack who's line ends.
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Mar 10 2021 01:36pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 10 2021 09:12am)
Obama in 2008 did lean right lol

We said that in 2008 and we will say it now. Obama in 2008 is around the same on the political spectrum that Republicans as a whole were in 1990. Economically Democrats and Republicans shifted right over the past 40 years and the fringe left of Democrats have only recently started pushing the party back even slightly left.


ya thats why he pushed for socialized medicine.
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Mar 10 2021 01:37pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 10 2021 01:36pm)
ya thats why he pushed for socialized medicine.


When did that happen? Because Obamacare is definitely not socialized medicine.
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Mar 10 2021 01:39pm
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When did that happen? Because Obamacare is definitely not socialized medicine.


lol what was it then?
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lol what was it then?


Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing. Can you define what "socialized medicine" means when you say it?
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Mar 10 2021 01:41pm
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Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing. Can you define what "socialized medicine" means when you say it?


already doin the dodge huh
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already doin the dodge huh


Agreeing on definitions is the first part of any constructive conversation. If you have a weird definition of socialized medicine then its possible we don't actually have a disagreement.
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