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#81
Mar 7 2021 09:09am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 7 Mar 2021 15:15)
Ye its not surprising that nations will do this. Its interesting as it clearly shows how people will behave when their backs are against the wall. There is no global cooperation when the shit hits the fan.

The expanded point is the hypocrisy in claiming a vaccine is unsafe and then blocking those vaccines leaving your neighborhoud. Particularly when the rollout effort has only reached <5% of the population


I'm not surprised at all. Solidarity with strangers is a chimera that the political left loves to invoke, but has no basis in reality. Sure, people will be kind to strangers when it doesnt come with real sacrifice, but as soon as shit genuinely hits the fan, it's every man for himself (and perhaps his own kin).
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Mar 7 2021 10:00am
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The death rate is appalling. Do you think the government dealt with border controls effectively?

Also Frances active cases total is alarming. Over 3 million live cases.


Each country have its own interpretation of this status. It's not "alarming".
You better follow deads/day, and even this is far to be 100% reliable.
Yet: Evolution (not flat numbers) of indicators per day is better.

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Mar 7 2021 10:40am
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Each country have its own interpretation of this status. It's not "alarming".
You better follow deads/day, and even this is far to be 100% reliable.
Yet: Evolution (not flat numbers) of indicators per day is better.


I'd argue it is alarming, given that its 10 times the live caes of the UK. Who has not done a good job restricting transmission.
And possibly 30 times the live cases of Germany

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Mar 7 2021 11:19am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 7 Mar 2021 17:40)
I'd argue it is alarming, given that its 10 times the live caes of the UK. Who has not done a good job restricting transmission.
And possibly 30 times the live cases of Germany

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Dont be silly, lol. It's beyond obvious that the French authorities are, for whatever reason, not properly updating the figure of recovered covid patients.
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Mar 7 2021 11:29am
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Dont be silly, lol. It's beyond obvious that the French authorities are, for whatever reason, not properly updating the figure of recovered covid patients.


Not sure if that's the case. I have read they have high vaccine skepticism, which is sad but perhaps understandable
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Mar 7 2021 11:54am
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Not sure if that's the case. I have read they have high vaccine skepticism, which is sad but perhaps understandable


Use your brain. The active stage of a covid patient who does not develop symptoms so severe that he has to be hospitalized cannot last longer than maybe 20 days or so. The 3m figure is close to the cumulative sum of all infections which were registered in France since early 2020. The bulk of the cases contained in these 3m came more than a month ago. It's biologically impossible for that many persons to still be active cases.

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#87
Mar 15 2021 05:11pm
Denmark
Norway
Island
Bulgaria
Ireland
Italy
Germany
France
and Spain

Have suspended the use of Astra-zeneca.

The possible blood cloth cases are probably insignificant to the benefits of being vaccinated. And it's surprisingly the countries that have made Astra-zeneca responsible for the quality and consequences of the vaccine are the ones ringing the alarms.. Then again, would a government like the UK, whom are liable to possible harm from the vaccine, ring any bells when there are doubts, or cover it up?

It's probably a nothing burger, and I love to see UK citizens making the claim that the EU is trying to ruin 'their' brand over the delivery fiasco. It's potentially possible, but gl making it sound plausible ;)

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Mar 15 2021 05:22pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Mar 15 2021 11:11pm)
Denmark
Norway
Island
Bulgaria
Ireland
Italy
Germany
France
and Spain

Have suspended the use of Astra-zeneca.

The possible blood cloth cases are probably insignificant to the benefits of being vaccinated. And it's surprisingly the countries that have made Astra-zeneca responsible for the quality and consequences of the vaccine are the ones ringing the alarms.. Then again, would a government like the UK, whom are liable to possible harm from the vaccine, ring any bells when there are doubts, or cover it up?

It's probably a nothing burger, and I love to see UK citizens making the claim that the EU is trying to ruin 'their' brand over the delivery fiasco. It's potentially possible, but gl making it sound plausible ;)


It seems to be a politically motivated decision as there have been a lower number of blood clots occurring in vaccinated individuals than would be expected on average. AZ have cut the expected deliveries to the EU again so there is no issue with stopping the vaccination programme for a few days considering you don't have a continuous supply

More people in the EU won't want the AZ vaccine now, even if it's cleared again for use. The consequences of this on the death rate in EU countries struggling with outbreaks could be quite bad
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Mar 15 2021 05:35pm
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It seems to be a politically motivated decision as there have been a lower number of blood clots occurring in vaccinated individuals than would be expected on average. AZ have cut the expected deliveries to the EU again so there is no issue with stopping the vaccination programme for a few days considering you don't have a continuous supply

More people in the EU won't want the AZ vaccine now, even if it's cleared again for use. The consequences of this on the death rate in EU countries struggling with outbreaks could be quite bad


What is it in your opinion? We're cancelling appointments because we don't want them, or we don't have them? Because it can't be both ^^
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Mar 15 2021 06:57pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Mar 15 2021 11:11pm)
Denmark
Norway
Island
Bulgaria
Ireland
Italy
Germany
France
and Spain

Have suspended the use of Astra-zeneca.

The possible blood cloth cases are probably insignificant to the benefits of being vaccinated. And it's surprisingly the countries that have made Astra-zeneca responsible for the quality and consequences of the vaccine are the ones ringing the alarms.. Then again, would a government like the UK, whom are liable to possible harm from the vaccine, ring any bells when there are doubts, or cover it up?

It's probably a nothing burger, and I love to see UK citizens making the claim that the EU is trying to ruin 'their' brand over the delivery fiasco. It's potentially possible, but gl making it sound plausible ;)


Which UK citizens claim the EU is ruining their brand?
Or is that a scenario you have imagined?

The EU made false assumptions on over 60's and AZ.
The EU president falsely claimed the UK was withholding vaccines from export.
They seem to be having a hard time constructing factual and honest standpoints on this subject. I'd tend not to believe this current claim until more data has been given.
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