Florida is a massive hub for international travel and tourism as well. And Miami has a higher population density than LA - speaking of which, in California, it was not very dense San Francisco that was hit hard by the winter wave, it was the much more vast Los Angeles.





How exactly can the weather explain differences between Florida and California?



Well, if the MSM have a pro big-government bias, then they necessarily have a partisan bias in favor of Democrats.

guess how many times in my life i've said or typed the name "cuomo"
after that sentence, pretty sure one

"Big government" is a meaningless buzz word.

Also miami is like 8% the population of NYC and like 15% the population of LA. Florida doesnt have near the international travel of NY or CA. Tourism only applied during those stupid as hell spring break parties that the governor facilitated.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 2 2021 06:23pm

fair question, but also mindblowingly hypocritical coming from someone who supported a president with literally dozens of credible allegations of severe sexual misconduct against him (and also responsible for a significant percentage of preventable covid deaths). all of a sudden you pretend to care about such things? nice try. seriously, trumptards have no business whatsoever demanding that greasy dirtbag cuomo to resign. i mean, he absolutely should, just based on the covid lies, no question about it - but at the same time YOU should also absolutely stfu forever about ANY politician doing ANYTHING wrong.



apples and oranges. maybe look at the actual policies, circumstances, and expectations for those states. desantis and his science-denier GQP friends might be governors of states that (predictably to anyone with a brain) didn't get hit quite as hard as the two main hubs for international travel on their respective coasts, but that doesn't mean the criticism they received for their mishandling of the pandemic was therefore unjustified, lol.
remember the data scientist whistleblower that was arrested, after defying orders to misinform the public in order to "reopen the state"? that was in florida, on desantis' orders. you pretending like just because some of the metrics look better in some red states than in america's covid hotspots at first glance, that somehow means their governors did a better job, is stupid at best - and considering where it's coming from most likely just blatantly dishonest political hackery. science deniers gonna stick together i guess.

They have a bias in favor of action, which works out to be a bias in favor of Democrats because they are the governing party.

"Big government" is an apt and concise way of summarizing an approach and its underlying mindset.

The Miami metro has a population of around 6m, metro New York has 19m, metro LA has 13m. Miami is the 7th largest metro in the entire country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistical_areas

Blah blah blah. Back in spring, Democrats and their allies in the media were constantly stressing how well California got through the first wave thanks to the prudent and rapid action of the state's blue governor and blue mayors. Back then, LA being the West Coast hub for international travel apparently did not prevent the city from averting a big covid surge. Hence, it is clearly logically inconsistent to accept this argument of being a travel hub in defense of LA's disastrous wave in December/January.




Since we're talking about apples and oranges, let us not forget that Florida is one of the oldest states in the country, with over a third of its entire population being older than 65, which obviously worsened the baseline prospect the state faced at the beginning of the pandemic.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 2 2021 06:43pm

hackety hackety hack. what part of 'look at the policies, circumstances, and expectations' was too difficult for you to understand, you desperate hack? are you seriously trying to deny desantis' and his fellow GQP governors' anti-scientific approach, pushing for fast reopenings of their states, downplaying the pandemic, and putting the economy over lives? or do you just not want to address their approach because you think that pointing to some metrics, comparing apples and oranges, somehow makes all that irrelevant?

It really isn't. Talk to any conservative and they still want police, roads, and basically every government service. "Big government" is just a way to say "government I don't like". The only real "small government" conservatives are libertarians, and real libertarians are a tiny minority of those who even call themselves libertarians.

If we are incorporating the metro than New York metro is 6x more dense and the LA metro is over 5x as dense. Florida is easy mode. Less dense and lower population.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 2 2021 06:50pm

Wanting the goverment to provide basic infrastructure and safety services (military, police, firefighters) imho isnt enough to qualify as a proponent of big government.



Wrong. According to wikipedia, New York metro has a pop density of 2053/km², metro Miama has 388/km². So far so good. But Greater LA (which includes San Bernardino) has 212, LA county has 800. Far away from being 5x as dense.
If we look at the core cities, then NYC has a pop density of 10716/km², Miami has 5019 and LA has 3276.

So at least the comparison between LA and Miami remains valid. Comparable pop density, similar temperatures and sunshine, and the fact that LA got through the first wave so well proves that its role as a travel hub doesnt doom it.
And like I said: when we're comparing the states, Florida is substantially older and thus more susceptible to the virus.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 2 2021 11:44pm