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Quote (Thor123422 @ 18 Feb 2021 21:21)
And you're a mall cop



Blue lives matter? Lel
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Quote (Santara @ 19 Feb 2021 03:00)
He was wrong on voter suppression, you're right. No, the parties did not flip platforms. If they did, what bullet points were they? Be specific. Precisely one Senator switched parties in that era: Strom Thurmond.


LOL. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed with overwhelming Republican Support. It was Southern Democrats that attempted to tank it.

House Vote: (Democrats 217-54, Republicans 111-20)
Senate Vote: (Democrats 49-17, Republicans 30-1)

Republicans having anything to do with "Voter Suppression" is a myth, exactly like some random platform switch. Nobody buys the attempted hard sell on the idea. "Requiring IDs that the states provide FOR FREE to vote because only CITIZENS legally have a right to vote" is not voter suppression. It's called voter integrity. Other laws and regulations around voting, such as a minimum 30-90 days as a resident of the state prior to an election to be eligible to vote, signature verification, clearing voter rolls of dead people and non-residents (people who have moved to other states), and same-day counting are all designed specifically to prevent voter fraud or vote manipulation.

If you want to claim Republicans are seeking or have ever sought to suppress votes, feel free to provide some realistic examples. The only true support for such things has come from Democrats. :)

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 19 2021 05:35am)
LOL. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed with overwhelming Republican Support. It was Southern Democrats that attempted to tank it.

House Vote: (Democrats 217-54, Republicans 111-20)
Senate Vote: (Democrats 49-17, Republicans 30-1)

Republicans having anything to do with "Voter Suppression" is a myth, exactly like some random platform switch. Nobody buys the attempted hard sell on the idea. "Requiring IDs that the states provide FOR FREE to vote because only CITIZENS legally have a right to vote" is not voter suppression. It's called voter integrity. Other laws and regulations around voting, such as a minimum 30-90 days as a resident of the state prior to an election to be eligible to vote, signature verification, clearing voter rolls of dead people and non-residents (people who have moved to other states), and same-day counting are all designed specifically to prevent voter fraud or vote manipulation.

If you want to claim Republicans are seeking or have ever sought to suppress votes, feel free to provide some realistic examples. The only true support for such things has come from Democrats. :)


Reducing the number of polling stations serving cities and minorities. If you actually need me to Google that, I don't think I can help you. That's not the only point, just the only point I have time for.
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Quote (Santara @ 19 Feb 2021 03:58)
Reducing the number of polling stations serving cities and minorities. If you actually need me to Google that, I don't think I can help you. That's not the only point, just the only point I have time for.


Yes, need you to google it. Because when I google it, what I find is that polling stations were removed all over the place. A polling station near where I used to live, which is 90% Hispanic, was removed. In a blue state in a blue city with a blue SoS with a blue governor with a blue mayor.

Not all the polling stations that were removed were in minority areas, and indeed, the most common pattern I found regarding the removal of polling stations was that they were replaced with dropboxes, which is something most Republicans opposed and oppose, as chain of custody is lost.

On the flipside, we're all mailed out ballots. At a polling station, you take your ballot (in it's signed envelope, secrecy envelope inside that) to a person, present your ID, they verify signature on the spot, and put it in a lockbox. With the dropboxes? Anybody can do anything. They aren't guarded or watched, and no ID verification is required.

But, feel free to expand.

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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 19 2021 09:31pm)
Since you started thinking all white people are bad because of slavery that happened in the past, ignoring black people did the same to their fellow blacks and ignoring the fact that western nations are nowadays helping those poor black countries in many ways, spending a % of their budget on that...

You get completely worked up over illegal migration, it's a simple fact western countries can't open the floodgates, see what happened in Africa, it's that link I posted a couple times now...

Oh you ignored that so it ain't happening in your mind, can't see that so it ain't real #fakenews hmm?


You come off as unhinged, I think no such thing.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 19 2021 10:29pm)
We can squabble all we want about the problem description, but that's not the point. What I wrote about the solution is still correct: trying to overcome racial inequality via counter-discrimination or even counter-racism is the wrong approach, it will only poison race relations and politics even further. Ban John from the race, but dont punish people 30 years later because their parents used to be on John's team. Talking about white privilege might play decently well with whites who are indeed privileged, so privileged they can spare some of it. But it's absolutely toxic to non-privileged whites, it causes them to flock to figures like Trump in droves.



Like I said: the Bernie 2016 approach of colorblind investment in all poor communities is the correct path forward - it will automatically reduce racial inequality without pitting races against each other. Move in against explicit discrimination, but do it in targetted fashion instead of 'guilt by association'.

Generally speaking: the main cleavage in American politics should be rich vs poor, not white vs non-white. It really baffles me that even high IQ people like you fail to see how modern identity politics are a deliberate (!!) distraction amped up by the billionaire class via their allies in politics, media, NGOs and academia. It's textbook "divide and conquer", why cant you guys see that?


Agree, Bernie had it right.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 19 2021 01:37pm)
You come off as unhinged, I think no such thing.


What, wait...

Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 19 2021 02:37am)
A 9, my ancestors owned people.


Was that your little nephew posting on your account?
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 19 Feb 2021 13:37)
Agree, Bernie had it right.


Unfortunately, he caved to the activist crowd and played up the wokeism during his 2020 campaign. I dont think he could have beaten Trump in 2020. It's really a pity that we didnt get Bernie vs Trump in 2016, I think that race would have been wide open.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Feb 2021 03:29)
Like I said: the Bernie 2016 approach of colorblind investment in all poor communities is the correct path forward - it will automatically reduce racial inequality without pitting races against each other. Move in against explicit discrimination, but do it in targetted fashion instead of 'guilt by association'.

Generally speaking: the main cleavage in American politics should be rich vs poor, not white vs non-white. It really baffles me that even high IQ people like you fail to see how modern identity politics are a deliberate (!!) distraction amped up by the billionaire class via their allies in politics, media, NGOs and academia. It's textbook "divide and conquer", why cant you guys see that?


It won't work in 95% of those communities. Why do you think people like Oprah Winfrey and Michael Jordon aren't heavily investing their billions into poor black/white/red/yellow/brown communities? Why do you think Bill Gates isn't investing his billions into poor white/black/red/yellow/brown communities? For that matter, why is it, do you think, that poor communities tend to stay poor?

If your community is burned down every 3-6 months in riots, what use is it to invest? Who benefits? If gang violence and related crime is so through the roof, and kids are dropping out to join those gangs, or while they're still a tad young to drop out, are simply skipping out, does it matter if some school administrators get a few million extra added to administrative staff paychecks?

If you have methed out community, where 80% of the males are convicted felons, meth production is everywhere, and 95% of the females are single mothers on welfare, can you find the labor to even properly staff a business?

You can't just "throw money" at a problem. Look at Baltimore. "Racist policing". Okay, so they replaced their primarily white police force. Trained up a bunch of black police, transferred black police in, and in general, made their department black. Did that stop the riots, did that stop rioters from attacking them, firebombing them, and shooting them? Did it stop the outcry and proceeding riot when a black police officer, who was actively being shot at returned fire in self defense? Of course not.

Bernie's an idiot who held up Venezuela as the model example on why socialism works. How'd that go? It led to a crashed authoritarian state where a wheel barrow of money won't buy you a single roll of toilet paper, the population is starving and without proper medical care or services, while the "President" sits fat and happy in his palace.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 18 2021 09:21pm)
And you're a mall cop



I’m a leader, you ignorant racist soy boy
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I am unapologetically white.
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