Not really. If it comes out that one method of vaccination gives effectively permanent immunity that one becomes the standard of care.

I know there's this idea that "cures don't make money", but that's just wrong. We've cured dozens of diseases, and even infectious ones. Most notably Hepatitis C is now curable for 99% of the population at a cost that is less than the cost of a lifetime of treatment.

Hep C is amongst the saddest of examples. Insurance companies fight tooth and nail against highly effective regiments saying try xyz inferior regiments first. Meanwhile liver worsens and despite treatment they are still left with cirrhotic livers. Insurance companies are the true bane of American healthcare

We don't know anything about immunity from vaccination though, correct? Didn't the Pfizer CEO come right out and say, "We aren't even sure if the vaccine will prevent you from being a carrier"??

Just asking for information. The more you know kind of thing.

So when they do the study they give participants the vaccination and then look at outcomes. We got to look at the data in my last town hall and when you see the infection curves it's a flat # of infections per week every week in the group. So first week 100 get infected, week 2 another 100 people, week 3 another 100 people. Not those specific numbers, but you get the idea. In the vaccination group that infection rate is reduced by like 95%. So you go from hundreds of infections a week to a couple of infections per week. Ideally we would then follow the curves out to infinity to see how long this lasts, and see if the vaccinated number ever reaches the unvaccinated number. Unfortunately in a pandemic you don't have the luxury of waiting. So what we do know about the vaccination is that over the course of a few months it reduces the number of infected individuals by 95%.

That alone is a huge thing. If you reduce the frequency of infection then you've basically taken the propagation rate from 2.0 to 0.1, which means the pandemic dies out very quickly since it isn't propagating.

So we don't know if it necessarily stops people from becoming a carrier, but what we do know is that it reduces the rate they get infected since that's what's directly measured.

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My best friend needs an artificial kidney and the dialysis companies are fighting it tooth and nail.

Antidepressants can make you more depressed but people still take everyday they also can lower sex drive 😎

Interesting. Will keep a close eye on the British NHS for the next month or two. Should be enlightening. We seem to be letting them take the lead on mass vaccinations, so all's well. They can be our test subject.

In all likelihood if you are immune enough to avoid getting the disease, you are immune enough to prevent viral replication and therefore infectivity. However without direct measurement, we can't be sure.