I gave the reasons why it shouldnt be a market. Because the forces that make markets work well are not present in healthcare.

Even Hayek, the Austrian economics hero, acknowledged we should be providing universal healthcare in America.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Oct 17 2020 09:33am

you mean Arnold, right?

Hayek didnt predict Obesity rates above 50%.

If we cut corn syrup subsidies and extinct the whales, I'd support making healthcare more universal.

A majority of cost of healthcare is also end of life care. If someone is 80 years old and circling the drain, we shouldnt be giving them $400,000 procedures unless they have private insurance.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Oct 17 2020 10:19am

pro life bro.. shut it

Ignorant big government fan fiction.

smearing and dismissing libertarianism isn't an argument.
Pretending everyone's grandparents would be living under a bridge if government didn't bail out the bankers is a ridiculous lie and appeal to emotion.

The great recession was the result of disastrous government policies and you somehow managed to get 'libertarianism and free markets are bad and outdated' out of it.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Oct 17 2020 10:39am

the govt policy of “everyone deserves a home so we will legislate that if you do not loan to unqualified buyers you will be fined and jailed” comes to mind

and they wonder why lending companies create all sorts of absurd financial products to remain compliant

You have your causal links backwards.

We have corn subsidies because we don't have universal healthcare. If we implement nationalized healthcare suddenly theres a huge incentive to tax fattening products and subsidize healthy ones.

Are you referring to the animals, or to your fellow Americans?



I did not dismiss libertarianism in general, I dismissed vulgar, 1880s style libertarianism.


Just to make this clear: although I consider the bailouts to have been without alternative, I do not support how cheap the banks got away with their failure in the end.

And yes, the great recession was the result of disastrous government policies - both leftist (mandating subprime lending) and libertarian (deregulating the financial sector, which is the reason why the subprime crisis was able to set the whole financial sector on fire).

Government has no incentive to reduce costs. The higher the costs, the more that senators can skim off the top.