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Sep 10 2020 01:27pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 10 Sep 2020 21:24)
Yeah but culture doesn't come from nowhere. When it's not clear that education provides a better life people do not seek education, and that's the same when parents don't see it as well as the kids. When the parents grew up in those areas and didn't have access, and the kids have similar access, it continues the culture.

Culture and parenting styles don't come from nowhere, they're influenced by the material circumstances the parents and kids were raised in.

If you're talking to an individual parent you can say "you need to reinforce this stuff at home", but when there isn't as much opportunity expect it to be dismissed by more parents than the groups that have more opportunity.


you know that he will strictly reject any context related to systemic inequality, right? it's part of his cult canon to pretend that simply doesn't exist, no matter how overwhelming the evidence is...
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Sep 10 2020 02:01pm
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you know that he will strictly reject any context related to systemic inequality, right? it's part of his cult canon to pretend that simply doesn't exist, no matter how overwhelming the evidence is...


There's also inequality that is generated internally as a result of pervasive issues among cultures that naturally hinder progression. That is not to downplay systematic racism. But you have to acknowledge there's a combination of issues.
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There's also inequality that is generated internally as a result of pervasive issues among cultures that naturally hinder progression. That is not to downplay systematic racism. But you have to acknowledge there's a combination of issues.


absolutely, i'd never deny that. it's obviously a multi-faceted problem that can not be solved by simply throwing money at it. eliminating systemic injustices, however, is something that politicians could tackle directly.
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Sep 11 2020 02:43am
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absolutely, i'd never deny that. it's obviously a multi-faceted problem that can not be solved by simply throwing money at it. eliminating systemic injustices, however, is something that politicians could tackle directly.


The key question is to which extent or under which circumstances inequality implies injustice. Unfortunately, that's the question where the two partisan camps cant find a common denominator.
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The key question is to which extent or under which circumstances inequality implies injustice. Unfortunately, that's the question where the two partisan camps cant find a common denominator.


yes, because your side often completely denies there even is such a thing as systemic racism, you included - so get out of here with your transparent attempts to rationalise that as disagreement over the degree, lol.
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