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Sep 8 2020 09:58am
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 8 2020 09:55am)
whoa i clearly struck a nerve, *smirks confidently*


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Sep 8 2020 10:11am
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let's be honest, if he threatened or brandished a weapon at the crowd we'd have 200 reports of it on all mainstream media. the list of things that make him look bad in being chased don't comply with the lack of them being reported on.


The affidavit states a witness saw him holding the gun in a "low-ready" position. The cadence of Rosenbaum's voice, i.e the emphasis on 'me' when he says 'shoot me n-' implies that shooting has already been mentioned. But as I say we don't have the full story and most witness accounts have not yet been made public. We'll know more when this gets to court.

Frankly the focus on Rittenhouse is telling of the general narrative pushed by political commentators in the US. There have already been multiple and direct attacks on protestors by far-right terrorists, some fatal, some with firearms. None have caused the media circus that this one has. The story latched onto is the one instance they can possibly paint protestors as the aggressors toward the far-right. America just accepts or ignores right wing terrorism and spends all it's energy trying to prove that the left is as more of a threat.

I was covering the first 14 days of the protests 24/7 with some buddies over on twitch. We ran nonstop for all that time and during that period there were over a dozen vehicular attacks on protestors from the far right resulting in at least one fatality, not counting the police doing the same. There were multiple shootings resulting in multiple fatalities. None of those caused any consternation whatsoever among the media class. If this is the one instance in which a right wing militia affiliate was set upon unjustly by people present at the protests then I couldn't give a shit. Frankly fuck Kyle and everything he stands for, along with the shitlords in the Kenosha guard.
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Sep 8 2020 10:24am
Deranged leftist reptile inventing right wing terror attacks while excusing/ignoring numerous left wing terror attacks and wishing children were murdered for not sharing the creature's political beliefs.
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Sep 8 2020 10:37am
Iv said it before in a trolling matter but I'll say it again. The mass majority of Antifa are the ugliest people iv ever seen. They clearly have just grown up rejected by everyone. It's like extream feminists, they're all ugly as fuck, no one wants to fuck them so they turn into some kind of extremists.

Go to the gym, eat better, put some effort into yourself.

Masks honestly might be the best thing for these people but please lay off the tight black cloths. Just disgusting.
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Sep 8 2020 10:40am
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Irrelevant to the conditions under which the 'mob' attempted to stop Rittenhouse. These folks knew shots had been fired, heard their comrades saying that he had killed someone, know from experience that right wing attacks on protestors have been common and had to make a split second decision about what was going on. With the warning that he had shot someone already they chose to put their lives on the line to stop him shooting others.

Rosenbaum's situation is unclear. Seems like he tried to chase Rittenhouse down after he had already flagged folks and threatened to shoot them.


Kyle didn't walk into a crowded space and open fired like say that newzealand mosque shooter. He had a mob descending upon him and defended himself. Would you prefer he have ended up dead or in the hospital with critical head injuries like the last white dude that got mobbed? Although he shouldn't have put himself in that situation i dont blame him for firing when he probably thought he was going to get seriously injured.

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Iv said it before in a trolling matter but I'll say it again. The mass majority of Antifa are the ugliest people iv ever seen. They clearly have just grown up rejected by everyone. It's like extream feminists, they're all ugly as fuck, no one wants to fuck them so they turn into some kind of extremists.

Go to the gym, eat better, put some effort into yourself.

Masks honestly might be the best thing for these people but please lay off the tight black cloths. Just disgusting.


Very accurate observation. Total freak show rejects, often with a number of mental illnesses, banding together to try to tear down civilization.
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And why were they chasing him?

There is a lot missing from the narrative being pushed from both sides as we simply don't have all the information and it will be decided in a court of law. Rittenhouse will almost certainly be found guilty of firearms offenses given the laws in wisconsin and according to the few lawyers I've spoken to on the subject will likely be convicted of either first or second degree reckless homicide due to Wisconsin's self-defense laws. Though ofc where a jury is involved it can always go the other way.

However all that is irrelevant. My initial comment was not a defense of Rosenbaum it was a repudiation of the condemnation of the two folks shot while attempting to later disarm him after he shot Rosenbaum. Given the information we have and the information we know them to have there is no reason to condemn them except, as I already said, on the basis that if you believe a terror attack is in progress and you have a gun you should shoot the person rather than rushing at them.


Presumably for having the temerity of standing between them and their target. He had been protecting the car dealership, had to leave the property for some unknown reason, and the police refused him re-entrance to the property when he returned. So he was now no longer a part of a group, but a single actor, who the crowd appears to have set upon. 6 minutes later and a block or two away, he is seen fleeing from this group when Rosenbaum is killed.

/e it's not the mob's job to arrest him. Mobs don't seem to be particularly interested in upholding the rule of law, they seem to be interested in mob justice. So I don't really care what their intentions truly were. I care what a reasonable person would perceive their intentions to be: hostile.

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Quote (duffman316 @ 8 Sep 2020 17:40)
Kyle didn't walk into a crowded space and open fired like say that newzealand mosque shooter. He had a mob descending upon him and defended himself. Would you prefer he have ended up dead or in the hospital with critical head injuries like the last white dude that got mobbed? Although he shouldn't have put himself in that situation i dont blame him for firing when he probably thought he was going to get seriously injured.


Also not a judgement or point I made.
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Sep 8 2020 11:11am)
The affidavit states a witness saw him holding the gun in a "low-ready" position. The cadence of Rosenbaum's voice, i.e the emphasis on 'me' when he says 'shoot me n-' implies that shooting has already been mentioned. But as I say we don't have the full story and most witness accounts have not yet been made public. We'll know more when this gets to court.

Frankly the focus on Rittenhouse is telling of the general narrative pushed by political commentators in the US. There have already been multiple and direct attacks on protestors by far-right terrorists, some fatal, some with firearms. None have caused the media circus that this one has. The story latched onto is the one instance they can possibly paint protestors as the aggressors toward the far-right. America just accepts or ignores right wing terrorism and spends all it's energy trying to prove that the left is as more of a threat.

I was covering the first 14 days of the protests 24/7 with some buddies over on twitch. We ran nonstop for all that time and during that period there were over a dozen vehicular attacks on protestors from the far right resulting in at least one fatality, not counting the police doing the same. There were multiple shootings resulting in multiple fatalities. None of those caused any consternation whatsoever among the media class. If this is the one instance in which a right wing militia affiliate was set upon unjustly by people present at the protests then I couldn't give a shit. Frankly fuck Kyle and everything he stands for, along with the shitlords in the Kenosha guard.


no doubt that same eyewitness would say "he was holding his fully automatic assault rifle at low-ready position". wheres if he was in truth pointing it at protesters or had taunted them we'd have 10+ eyewitness accounts all along the same lines. id be happy to be wrong, id be happy to find out he walked up to a group and stated "once the sun goes down we'll start lynching you nigger lovers", but dont find that at all likely.

as to the media, a credible explanation for the motives involved are a far more juicy story than the stuff that happens at protests when unrest is high. and we can bet if someone died or was in critical condition they'd run it anyways.

my guess is armed idiots have been gathering at protests for some time now, but unarmed protesters are getting far too used to the idea that the guns wont be used. this was a result of a mob taunting and pushing Kyle around and he made a poor choice that is also legally self defense. it may take SCOTUS repeals to even get that defense accepted, he's an idiot as are all of these armed "militia" vigilante thugs, but so are the mobs who don't think someone with a gun will use it when they feel threatened. ironic given what caused the protest to begin with. guns and protests dont mix for this very reason, eventually it will lead to tragedy.
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Quote (Santara @ 8 Sep 2020 17:45)
Presumably for having the temerity of standing between them and their target. He had been protecting the car dealership, had to leave the property for some unknown reason, and the police refused him re-entrance to the property when he returned. So he was now no longer a part of a group, but a single actor, who the crowd appears to have set upon. 6 minutes later and a block or two away, he is seen fleeing from this group when Rosenbaum is killed.


Presumably, assumedly, I think etc.

Good shit. Thanks for your wild speculation. I'll stick with what we know from the video evidence ty.
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