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Aug 20 2020 01:19am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 20 2020 12:07am)
I think if anything Kamalas progressive record in the senate and tough on crime record as AG shows her to be pragmatic enough to conform to her role. As Bidens VP we can expect her to be thoroughly centrist and to quash progressive insurgent movements that would upset the establishment dems. Shes clearly not a true beleiver or ideologue


Quit trying to make me support her.
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Aug 20 2020 03:44am
Quote (thundercock @ 20 Aug 2020 09:19)
Quit trying to make me support her.


As far as I know, you're a white, highly educated, high income dude living in an upscale suburb. Of all demographic groups, that's by far the one Harris appeals to the most, so your love for her is not surprising ^_^
Unfortunately, she appeals neither to the well-informed parts of the BLM crowd nor to the large segments of the population who actually want to see the country's socioeconomic status quo changed.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 20 2020 03:44am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Aug 2020 16:02)
That's the nature of the contemporary Democratic party. They are a weird mix of many very young (the squad) and a few old (Bernie, Warren) politicians who are far to the left by American standards, coupled with a lot of old to middle aged pro-mainstream and pro-status quo politicians (Biden, Hillary, Harris, Obama, Pelosi, Schumer). Similarly, their electoral coalition is a weird combination of downscale minorities and upscale whites whose economic interests dont really align if you think about it. The Democratic party does indeed subscribe to some contradictory and two-faced policy positions, which is just a reflection of the deep divide among its base (and since Bernie's 2016 run also increasingly between its elected officials).

If the Biden-Clinton-Pelosi camp of the Democratic party got a chance to raise taxes, they would find a way to design them such that the white lower middle class has to carry the bulk of the burden, like they did with Obamacare. Or it would end like the Dodd-Frank act which was so overcomplex that it actually helped the large banks put away smaller banks who couldnt afford to keep up with all the red tape anymore.




Regarding Trump: going along with the "oldschool RNC style" tax cuts was one of the biggest policy mistakes of his presidency. He was completely unprepared and in over his head during his chaotic first year in office, and visibly torn between his populist instincts and his effort to get he mainstream of the party on board. He had just pulled off a hostile takeover of the Republican party, and still had to consolidate his intraparty power by forming alliances and working with the establishment/mainstream of the party. And he also had too many swamp creatures in his orbit during that time that he shouldnt have listened to...

Oh yeah, let's not forget that Bannon-style populist tax hikes on high-income earners were not even close to having a majority in Congress. Neither the Republicans in the Senate nor the ones in the House would have gone along with such a tax hike, and the Democrats were still shellshook by their loss, hated his guts and had no intention whatsoever to bail him out with their votes.


wrong. what a shitty analysis rationalisation. he PUT those swamp creatures in there with the intention to profit, and that's what they did. his 'populist instincts' concerning the working class were always just pandering, and everyone outside the cult knew that and called it long before he told his millionaire friend "you all just got a lot richer" - after repeatedly promising that high income earners wouldn't see a dime, even be worse off.
he's STILL doing those kind of things (putting his swamp buddies in charge to deregulate the fossil fuel industry, or gut the USPS for example) as we speak, so acting like it was forced upon him or a compromise to consolidate his support within the party is pure bs. a critical thinking person wouldn't have trouble to realise that, but cultists gonna cult, i guess...
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Great speech.

"Donald Trump hasn’t grown into the job because he can’t."
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Aug 20 2020 09:01am
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-party-just-dissed-disappeared-012705792.html

the DNC is now racist because they selected Kamala over Stacy Abrams :rofl:
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Aug 20 2020 10:10am
Slick Willie talking about taking responsibility and having character in office 😂

Peak irony. Do as I say not as I do?
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Aug 20 2020 10:17am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 20 2020 11:10am)
Slick Willie talking about taking responsibility and having character in office 😂

Peak irony. Do as I say not as I do?

You can’t make this shit up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8642045/Stephen-Colbert-leads-outrage-against-Bill-Clintons-DNC-speech-lectured-Trump-behavior.html
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Aug 20 2020 10:28am
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 20 2020 09:37am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKBeArVeemg

Great speech.

"Donald Trump hasn’t grown into the job because he can’t."




Wtf would anyone care what Obama has to say? LOL

He's like a boil that finally gets lanced, and here you are trying to bring the boil back.
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Aug 20 2020 10:55am
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Wtf would anyone care what Obama has to say? LOL

He's like a boil that finally gets lanced, and here you are trying to bring the boil back.


here's the irony: icepeon hated him for 8+ years but now pretends to support him.

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Slick Willie talking about taking responsibility and having character in office 😂

Peak irony. Do as I say not as I do?


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lmao. next up the dnc will feature anthony weiner on proper conduct with cell phones
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Aug 20 2020 11:02am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 20 2020 09:28am)
Wtf would anyone care what Obama has to say? LOL

He's like a boil that finally gets lanced, and here you are trying to bring the boil back.


What world do you live in? He is speaking at the DEMOCRAT convention. The audience is DEMOCRATS (and political nerds). Last I checked, DEMOCRATS love OBAMA.
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