Quote (Thor123422 @ 22 Jul 2020 00:19)

History says this perspective is wrong. Silicon Valley became the capital of technology due to lax IP laws allowing AMD to directly rip off Intel pin for pin. During this time, Intel didn't stop making better processors just because they would be ripped off in 6 months.

Quote (Skinned @ 22 Jul 2020 00:31)

That's actually bullshit and the bulk of scientific discovery was accomplished before capitalism. Capitalism has turned science into an anti-life discipline of nuclear weapons, cloning, abortions, eugenics, bell curves, and what have you.

Why have all the great scientist been dead for centuries?

Gtfo with that opinion.

"Humans would stop doing the thing they have continually done for tens of thousands of years if they didn't have capitalist masters."

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 21 2020 04:41pm)

Do IP laws not explicitly stop copying by any means, including reverse engineering?

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 21 2020 05:25pm)

So you don't know what the difference is between what China considers strategic and what is considered strategic in the US-Russia context, do you?


Anyway, a 50 Kt airburst over Los Angeles would be sufficient kill and maim the "right people" and take out an appropriate level of infrastructure to force a surrender by the liberals to the conservatives without affecting more conservative areas like the inland empire. Strategic nukes wouldn't be desirable unless we want to end society as we know it rather than shift the political world as we known it, which is what conservatives desire.

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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 21 2020 04:46pm)

Tangent time.

IP theft isn't really a thing. Trademarking a process or chemical structure is about the most insane way the wealthy oppress poor people. It is so insane to say that people over there can't do a thing a certain way because of the words on this paper. It is such a stupid game that everyone plays. Its only legitmacy it people still play it.

The chemicals in chemotherapy probably cost under 10 dollars to make a five gallon bucket of it. Probably much less. But if they charge 100000x the price of production and give their CEOs several million dollars a year then cancer gets treated better, faster? Well we've been playing this game long enough, why isn't there a better treatment than shooting poison into our bodies? Well they only make poison...if we start treating cancerous tumors with sonic vibrations for example then they can't make a pill and sell that for 100000x the actual value. They would actually have to develop a piece of trademarkable technology but that is real science which isn't profittable.

I'm not criticizing your arguments or statements.

Quote (thesnipa @ 22 Jul 2020 07:51)

ips are a double edge sword, they also protect the rich from ripping off poor inventors. but at the same time patent application is expensive, although from years of shark tank it seems mortgaging your house can be enough money. but then your product is protected. but overall i'd say in just america if patents didnt exist the elite class would have more control today, not less.

Quote (excellence @ Jul 22 2020 07:17am)

yeah ultimately the elite class will gain control one way or another but patents can help mitigate or at least postpone their ascent

Quote (excellence @ Jul 22 2020 08:17am)

yeah ultimately the elite class will gain control one way or another but patents can help mitigate or at least postpone their ascent

Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 20 2020 09:03am)

What do you want the world to look like 50 years from now? I'd say its certainly in our interest to go to war.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2020 11:35pm)

If you won't defend democracy elsewhere, expect your own democracy to not exist for very long.

A legitimate protection of a democratic state is something that could easily unite both sides of the aisle.