Quote (Djunior @ Jul 8 2020 10:16am)

Again I say -> looting stores is not peaceful protest.

If you don't understand that authorities react when there's looting and arson going on at various places then that's your shortcoming.

I would not let my kids go to protests because I understand that they could get teargassed with nervous cops around.

You just don't get it.

Quote (Djunior @ 8 Jul 2020 16:18)

You don't impress anyone with your dumbass images.

Keep it up though, post some more of the stuff that got you slammed with warn

Go

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 8 2020 04:29pm)

You can't even address what i am saying. You are attacking a strawman, and you have endorsed fascism and violence against citizens by the state.

Quote (fender @ Jul 8 2020 04:34pm)

yeah, and i have a pretty good idea which fascist went crying to the mods over a cartoon that mocked the feedback loop between trump and fox news to get me suspended, but hey, 'free speech' (except for those that oppose fascism and the trump cult, right? i bet you don't even see the hypocrisy in it, lol.

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 8 2020 09:08am)

No i don't. Why should free citizens not be able to use their rights without being attacked?

I am taking those people at that time. There is really no excuse. Something happening in another city has no bearing, the Constitution doesn't allow collective punishment or corruption of blood.

You are nullifying the individual for the collective by doing this.

Quote (thesnipa @ 8 Jul 2020 10:42)

how has a topic that started as addressing cancel culture devolved into "my peaceful protesters were attacked" vs "looters deserve to be punished"?

no wonder we can't address the topic of canceling, we can't even stay on it as a topic.

the whataboutism and retreating to comfortable topics in the face of difficult ones is a bit silly. you two can continue to pretend for another 10 pages that neither have valid points while ignoring the OP tho if you choose.

Quote (Djunior @ 8 Jul 2020 10:40)

You're old new buddy and a repeating pattern. You get continuously slammed in debates and then you come up with some of the inappropriate content that you have in abundance on your pc and you rake up some warn.

That's not us, that's you showing just how dumb you are. We had a laugh about it so t4t

Quote (Djunior @ 8 Jul 2020 16:40)

You're old new buddy and a repeating pattern. You get continuously slammed in debates and then you come up with some of the inappropriate content that you have in abundance on your pc and you rake up some warn.

That's not us, that's you showing just how dumb you are. We had a laugh about it so t4t

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 8 2020 10:42am)

how has a topic that started as addressing cancel culture devolved into "my peaceful protesters were attacked" vs "looters deserve to be punished"?

no wonder we can't address the topic of canceling, we can't even stay on it as a topic.

the whataboutism and retreating to comfortable topics in the face of difficult ones is a bit silly. you two can continue to pretend for another 10 pages that neither have valid points while ignoring the OP tho if you choose.

Quote (Skinned @ Jul 8 2020 10:58am)

I've asked for definitions and examples of cancel culture. I see the right tring to cancel BLM out and failing.

Definition and examples. I talked about the successes ie Weinstein, Cosby, and others as part of the metoo which is part of cancel culture undebatably.

I haven't ignored the OP, I've engaged and you guys have been found lacking.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 8 2020 08:27am)

the real danger with cancel culture isn't the reactive apologies, it's the proactive self censorship. this is starting to happen with actors leaving voice roles of biracial characters and/or LGBTQA+ roles.

what's the difference?

reactive: Jimmy Kimmel apologizes for decades old black face, recognizing that while it was tepidly acceptable (but still "funny" due to it's controversy in the prevailing meta of the time) it no longer is. he pledges he's changed, to continue to change, and that he recognizes he was wrong.

proactive: voice actor leaves a role of a biracial character even tho vocal disagreement with this act in the current climate is not strong, it's simply a heated pot of water with a few bubbles but not yet boiling. they performed the role this calendar year, took the role last year or this year, didn't see an issue with it, etc. they're simply gauging the direction and assuming this behavior in 5-10 years could be a far more serious problem.

this type of behavior is new, just beginning, and will get far worse. the cancel culture's affect on creative expression has surpassed simply it's vocal minority's disagreement power, its now causing people to flinch before the blow comes. for those upset that vanilla feel good movies like the Marvel franchise blow up while gritty historical dramas get criticized and not recognized by award shows, prepare for a taste that will leave you wanting for vanilla. Take Lin Manuel Mirada's Hamilton, recently criticized for glorifying a slave owner. with hindsight Lin would have likely never made Hamilton, he'd never have engaged youth on a figure who escapes most founding father discussions, etc. A wave of pseudo-history, minority empowering, white shaming, bland feel good nonsense movies and TV are headed our way. Entertainment has left the counter culture, or the counter culture is leaving the realm of controversial. Look at it how you please.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 8 2020 12:00pm)

retroactive cancel culture, while i dont agree with it, is far less problematic. honestly it even hinges on an apology to even be effective.

but the cases im referencing below (Hamilton, Kristen Bell & Jenny Slate's recanted biracial roles, Halle Berry and Scarlet Johansen's drop out from trans roles, etc) are something u can address, or just label lacking.