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Jul 8 2020 10:30am
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I meant to type 2001, on my phone and busy. You can’t do something when literally every official that has been asked about it says the evidence isn’t corroborated, we can’t take it to court, etc. Its wmds all over again. You’d think we’d learn by now but here we are again wanting something to happen on rumors, ones that haven’t been proven at least half a year now.

Icemage it’s like you have selective reading. Your own sources keep saying things like we can’t take it to court meaning it’s not actionable yet you only selectively pick out words ignoring the meat of what they’re saying.


2001 was a lot closer to 1944 than 2020 in terms of response. we went to war with a 3rd world dictatorship that we could beat. russia's economy might be equal to italy but we're not invading based on shoddy intel either.
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Jul 8 2020 10:49am
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Icemage it’s like you have selective reading. Your own sources keep saying things like we can’t take it to court meaning it’s not actionable yet you only selectively pick out words ignoring the meat of what they’re saying.


My own sources? Lol. I post relevant information here to the topic... how are they my sources?

I've already corrected your misunderstandings but you're simply not able to absorb them. These new statements seem to show(which most of the evidence pointed to) that there was worrying intelligence, but at least this particular military official thought it wasn't sufficient enough yet to warrant action. That's a far cry from "fake news democrat hoax Russia never bad lol".

It's also not the only relevant question on this issue. If it was in Trump's PDB and he didn't read it, that's a problem. If the briefer didn't share it because Trump gets triggered when malign Russian actions are brought to his attention, that's a problem. If NSA O'Brien isn't lying and the briefer didn't mention it because the lack of veracity, why was it in the PDB, and why was it shared with the Brits and NATO?

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Jul 8 2020 01:10pm
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My own sources? Lol. I post relevant information here to the topic... how are they my sources?

I've already corrected your misunderstandings but you're simply not able to absorb them. These new statements seem to show(which most of the evidence pointed to) that there was worrying intelligence, but at least this particular military official thought it wasn't sufficient enough yet to warrant action. That's a far cry from "fake news democrat hoax Russia never bad lol".

It's also not the only relevant question on this issue. If it was in Trump's PDB and he didn't read it, that's a problem. If the briefer didn't share it because Trump gets triggered when malign Russian actions are brought to his attention, that's a problem. If NSA O'Brien isn't lying and the briefer didn't mention it because the lack of veracity, why was it in the PDB, and why was it shared with the Brits and NATO?


By your source i just meant the one you posted lol, don't get your panties in a bunch.

Dude multiple officials have said recently that they have no evidence, it's not corroborated, "won't take it to court" etc. If this was reported in February, how do they still not have evidence of it? It's at least 6 months now since the events, by now the best funded intel agencies would have found proof of this, considering we have such a long standing presence in Afghanistan. Secondly, it makes absolute sense that the president wouldn't see such reports. You really think the alphabet agencies bring him binders of 'maybe true' things in the morning and Trump spends his day sifting on what's actionable or not? Do you understand how busy the president is and how dumb that sounds? Do you understand how many different departments needs & executive obligations he has to fit in a day?
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Jul 8 2020 01:12pm
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By your source i just meant the one you posted lol, don't get your panties in a bunch.

Dude multiple officials have said recently that they have no evidence, it's not corroborated, "won't take it to court" etc. If this was reported in February, how do they still not have evidence of it? It's at least 6 months now since the events, by now the best funded intel agencies would have found proof of this, considering we have such a long standing presence in Afghanistan. Secondly, it makes absolute sense that the president wouldn't see such reports. You really think the alphabet agencies bring him binders of 'maybe true' things in the morning and Trump spends his day sifting on what's actionable or not? Do you understand how busy the president is and how dumb that sounds? Do you understand how many different departments needs & executive obligations he has to fit in a day?


They are literally investigating to find the leaker.

"This totally is an absolute hoax but we will find the leaker and punish them!"

This investigation in and of itself is an admission of guilt.
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Jul 8 2020 01:14pm
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They are literally investigating to find the leaker.

"This totally is an absolute hoax but we will find the leaker and punish them!"

This investigation in and of itself is an admission of guilt.


You have to be more specific on who's saying what
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Jul 8 2020 01:17pm
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You have to be more specific on who's saying what



Literally Donald John Trump is using doublespeak so that his followers can doublethink their way to passivity.
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Jul 8 2020 01:18pm
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Literally Donald John Trump is using doublespeak so that his followers can doublethink their way to passivity.


Dude post the quote/source i can't read your mind nor do i follow Trumps tweets to know what you're talking about.
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Jul 8 2020 01:19pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 8 2020 03:10pm)
By your source i just meant the one you posted lol, don't get your panties in a bunch.

Dude multiple officials have said recently that they have no evidence, it's not corroborated, "won't take it to court" etc. If this was reported in February, how do they still not have evidence of it? It's at least 6 months now since the events, by now the best funded intel agencies would have found proof of this, considering we have such a long standing presence in Afghanistan. Secondly, it makes absolute sense that the president wouldn't see such reports. You really think the alphabet agencies bring him binders of 'maybe true' things in the morning and Trump spends his day sifting on what's actionable or not? Do you understand how busy the president is and how dumb that sounds? Do you understand how many different departments needs & executive obligations he has to fit in a day?


If you're going to make shit up I can't respond to you. There's no conversation to be had if you just deny reality. We have officials on record acknowledging the intel had credibility and you continue to insist it was some hoax.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 8 2020 01:20pm
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Jul 8 2020 01:26pm
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If you're going to make shit up I can't respond to you. There's no conversation to be had if you just deny reality. We have officials on record acknowledging the intel had credibility and you continue to insist it was some hoax.


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Gen. Frank McKenzie, the commander of US Central Command, also told a small group of reporters while traveling to the region that he was not convinced that the Russian bounty program was directly responsible for the deaths of US personnel.

"The intelligence wasn't proved to me. It was proved enough to worry me. It wasn't proved enough that I'd take it to a court of law.


Words of guy running Afghanistan command. I've already posted DOD chief spokesperson response.

You're literally tin foil hat guy my man.
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Jul 8 2020 01:27pm
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Words of guy running Afghanistan command. I've already posted DOD chief spokesperson response.

You're literally tin foil hat guy my man.


You just posted a quote contradicting yourself lol.

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