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Jun 23 2020 02:08pm
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Cancel culture= if you don't agree with this set of ideas publicly you will get deplatformed, shamed, etc.

Drew Brees is a recent example.

Cancel culture, PC culture are all tools that democrats have made part of their platform. It's so front and center and rampant in our culture that it takes pure cognitive dissonance to not see it.

No one is deplatforming leftists or democrats on social media or sending mobs, you guys pretty much have made that your default status operandi in promoting 'freedom of association'


Question. Why should people refrain from using their freedom of speech, freedom of association, and economic freedom to spend money where they see fit to deplatform people? If they aren't using the government to do so that doesn't seem bad. It seems like the system working as it should. I mean, if I really don't like somebody why shouldn't I refuse to buy their advertisers products, and try to get my friends to do the same? Isn't that the very essence of freedom?
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Jun 23 2020 02:13pm
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Question. Why should people refrain from using their freedom of speech, freedom of association, and economic freedom to spend money where they see fit to deplatform people? If they aren't using the government to do so that doesn't seem bad. It seems like the system working as it should. I mean, if I really don't like somebody why shouldn't I refuse to buy their advertisers products, and try to get my friends to do the same? Isn't that the very essence of freedom?


So there's no way that could end badly?
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Jun 23 2020 02:15pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2020 01:05pm)
Prove it's fake. :/


I'll point out first that really it should be you to demonstrate that the tweet is real, since you posted it. However, since I know you won't do that:

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This tweet image was a fabrication, however, and not something posted by Ocasio-Cortez. It does not appear in her Twitter timeline, nor was it recorded by databases that capture and preserve deleted tweets.

Moreover, although the tweet was supposedly “shared over 20,000 times,” we could find no instances whatsoever of the original tweet’s having been shared or commented upon at all. It exists only as a screenshot of a faux tweet posted to a private Facebook group.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-businesses-closed-tweet/

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We found no evidence that Ocasio-Cortez tweeted this.

ProPublica, which keeps an archive of deleted tweets, does not have it in its collection of deleted tweets from either of Ocasio-Cortez’s Twitter accounts. We also didn’t find the tweet searching those accounts on Twitter.

Lastly, we couldn’t find any news coverage corroborating this Facebook post — which, again, was allegedly from May. Ocasio-Cortez is a highly scrutinized elected official and if she said something as inflammatory as what appears in the post, it would have been widely reported.If you Google the quote, the top hit is a Snopes fact-check saying the quote is fabricated. Because it is.


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/23/viral-image/no-aoc-didnt-tweet-about-closing-businesses-until-/
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Jun 23 2020 02:22pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Jun 23 2020 03:13pm)
So there's no way that could end badly?


The question isn't "if it could end badly". Literally any system can end badly.

If you want a system where people have the freedom to associate, spend their money how they see fit, and freedom of speech, then cancel culture is the inevitable result. If the majority of people don't like a person or think their message is shitty then they will vow to stop supporting them and try to get others to do the same, and companies want the most money possible so they will abide by the will of the majority who vows not to buy their advertisers products.

This is freedom in action, not some evil conspiracy.
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Jun 23 2020 02:23pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 23 2020 04:08pm)
Question. Why should people refrain from using their freedom of speech, freedom of association, and economic freedom to spend money where they see fit to deplatform people? If they aren't using the government to do so that doesn't seem bad. It seems like the system working as it should. I mean, if I really don't like somebody why shouldn't I refuse to buy their advertisers products, and try to get my friends to do the same? Isn't that the very essence of freedom?


Because youre destroying the system that allows you to have free speech dum dum
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Jun 23 2020 02:24pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 23 2020 03:21pm)
Cancel culture= if you don't agree with this set of ideas publicly you will get deplatformed, shamed, etc.

Drew Brees is a recent example.

Cancel culture, PC culture are all tools that democrats have made part of their platform. It's so front and center and rampant in our culture that it takes pure cognitive dissonance to not see it.

No one is deplatforming leftists or democrats on social media or sending mobs, you guys pretty much have made that your default status operandi in promoting 'freedom of association'


How many right wing conservatives are buying Indigo girls albums? How many right wing conservatives are buying fubu jerseys? How many right wing conservatives are going to see Kathy Griffith perform what some people call comedy?

Why are you deplatforming these artist and their products by not buying their shit?


Quote (excellence @ Jun 23 2020 03:23pm)
of course you’d defend the actions of a political party and their selected candidate biden (D) who screams at black people “if you’re black and don’t vote for me you ain’t black”

and of course you’d wish cancer on people due to political differences. looks like cam got you all emotional and mushy again

keep crying out for david duke the boogeyman, such a simpleton crutch for a simple person :lol:


Great post!

I also love that you enjoy when cam calls me a big dumb doo doo stupid head at the end of every argument.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 23 2020 04:29pm)
Am I? Because I haven't seen anybody's free speech actually stopped by cancel culture. Right to speech isn't the same as right to a platform or right to an audience.


Cancel culture has nothing to do with free speech. That's a strawman.

The notion itself is born from entitlement. It's more external locus of control stuff. They are failures because of this force... They are losing in the marketplace of ideas because of this force...

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I'll point out first that really it should be you to demonstrate that the tweet is real, since you posted it. However, since I know you won't do that:



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-businesses-closed-tweet/



https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/23/viral-image/no-aoc-didnt-tweet-about-closing-businesses-until-/




Yeah... that's some clever BS, no doubt. Snopes has already been busted for serious left leaning... "decisions" in their fact checking. And read a bunch of politifact articles. They are so left leaning it isn't funny.
Ofc, the media will not have this. If ANY1 still thinks they haven't been bought...well then... I pity them.

This is the party you're defending, right now...



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1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.




/e And this list isn't even up to date. Schiff and Nadler are at it again. They can't decide IF they want to subpoena Barr, or just let him set up a time that he and the House can agree on.

Here... here's a cup of coffee. Now all you have to do is wake up and smell it.

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Because youre destroying the system that allows you to have free speech dum dum


Am I? Because I haven't seen anybody's free speech actually stopped by cancel culture. Right to speech isn't the same as right to a platform or right to an audience.
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Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2020 03:25pm)
Yeah... that's some clever BS, no doubt. Snopes has already been busted for serious left leaning... "decisions" in their fact checking. And read a bunch of politifact articles. They are so left leaning it isn't funny.
Ofc, the media will not have this. If ANY1 still thinks they haven't been bought...well then... I pity them.

This is the party you're defending, right now...







/e And this list isn't even up to date. Schiff and Nadler are at it again. They can't decide IF they want to subpoena Barr, or just let him set up a time that he and the House can agree on.

Here... here's a cup of coffee. Now all you have to do is wake up and smell it.


lol you actually got caught believing a fake tweet that is so clearly fake only an idiot who is desperate for it to be true could even be tricked. then attack someone's source rather than admitting you got tricked, and tell them to wake up.

u just gave us the perfect example of how old people are influenced by social media "news", so thanks for that. you're basically PARD's lab mouse.
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Jun 23 2020 02:33pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 23 2020 04:30pm)
lol you actually got caught believing a fake tweet that is so clearly fake only an idiot who is desperate for it to be true could even be tricked. then attack someone's source rather than admitting you got tricked, and tell them to wake up.

u just gave us the perfect example of how old people are influenced by social media "news", so thanks for that. you're basically PARD's lab mouse.





Say what? You mean you weren't here for the fact check of Snopes? The one where they got big time busted? Like less than 2 months ago?
You can't read Politifact articles yourself?


/e Ya know what the history books won't show? They won't show that I was stupid enough to fall for the left's BS.

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