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Jun 3 2020 09:40am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 3 2020 08:13am)
Wow! A triple dog dare. I have gotten one of those for over 50 years.


Okay, here's exactly what I meant to say...

"Because there are MANY people (I won't mention any races) that don't believe that all, lives matter. They only believe that THEIR lives matter".



Don't assume I mean... blacks. That assumption may just be a sensitivity on your part. The reason I added: "I won't mention any races", is because I think that ALL races do that.

People are just people. There's assholes and great people in ALL races. Over the years, I've met many of both types... in ALL races.



In this topic in particular, I want to point out that the expression: "Oh, stop oppressing me", is getting kind of worn out.
Everyone, gets oppressed many times during their lives. Life IS hard, ya just have to suck it up and try again tomorrow.

There's no need for violence, anger or hate. We all just need to learn to live by the old adage: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again".


So you are saying that whites have it just as bad as blacks? There is difference? Their american experience is the same as whites?
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Jun 3 2020 10:24am
Quote (TheWhiteTower @ Jun 2 2020 01:13pm)
How is that a bad statement?


Because while it sounds neutral to the speaker, it is grossly offensive to people who've been consistently discriminated against their whole lives. It minimizes real world discrimination. People who say black lives matter aren't trying to say other peoples' lives don't matter, they're trying to say their lives MATTER TOO.
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Jun 3 2020 10:36am
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So you are saying that whites have it just as bad as blacks? There is difference? Their american experience is the same as whites?




What's this American experience you speak of? We are born, we live, we die. Everyone needs to do the best they can. And yeah... in modern times, whites do have it just as bad as blacks.

Or maybe whites should blame all their problems on, say, blacks?
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What's this American experience you speak of? We are born, we live, we die. Everyone needs to do the best they can. And yeah... in modern times, whites do have it just as bad as blacks.

Or maybe whites should blame all their problems on, say, blacks?


I've met very few white people who have bad stories about dealings with the police, and the ones I do know who had bad stories were pretty obviously breaking the law when they did. I also know lots of people with stories akin to "I was drinking at 16 and punched a cop in the face, and he drove me home and we didn't get charged".

However, I don't know any black person who doesn't have a shitty story about a cop. Lots of "your break light is out, oh sorry it's not my bad" at least.
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Jun 3 2020 01:16pm
Because it’s a racist statement.
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I've met very few white people who have bad stories about dealings with the police, and the ones I do know who had bad stories were pretty obviously breaking the law when they did. I also know lots of people with stories akin to "I was drinking at 16 and punched a cop in the face, and he drove me home and we didn't get charged".

However, I don't know any black person who doesn't have a shitty story about a cop. Lots of "your break light is out, oh sorry it's not my bad" at least.




I got three fix it tickets, and I deserved them all. So I took the ticket and had them fixed. And, I didn't give the cop a hard time either.
I spent 20 years in the SF area, where whites are definitely a minority. Had friends and stories from all kinds of people of all races. Never heard one, like you're attempting to tell.
In Cali, anyways, people get pulled over cause they deserve it.
I was oppressed by the cops though, when I first got there. They kept pulling me over for things I DID do, but don't usually get pulled over for... like 27 in a 25 mph zone. But that was only for the 1st 30 days.
Cali cops don't like out of state plates. They have a law that you have to get Cali plates withing 30 days. I DID get Cali plates withing 30 days...then things went back to what I thought of as normal.

Now stories from 3rd parties at least... I think I'll take with a grain of salt.
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I got three fix it tickets, and I deserved them all. So I took the ticket and had them fixed. And, I didn't give the cop a hard time either.
I spent 20 years in the SF area, where whites are definitely a minority. Had friends and stories from all kinds of people of all races. Never heard one, like you're attempting to tell.
In Cali, anyways, people get pulled over cause they deserve it.
I was oppressed by the cops though, when I first got there. They kept pulling me over for things I DID do, but don't usually get pulled over for... like 27 in a 25 mph zone. But that was only for the 1st 30 days.
Cali cops don't like out of state plates. They have a law that you have to get Cali plates withing 30 days. I DID get Cali plates withing 30 days...then things went back to what I thought of as normal.

Now stories from 3rd parties at least... I think I'll take with a grain of salt.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_San_Francisco#:~:text=According%20to%202018%20US%20Census,from%20two%20or%20more%20races.

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I've met very few white people who have bad stories about dealings with the police, and the ones I do know who had bad stories were pretty obviously breaking the law when they did. I also know lots of people with stories akin to "I was drinking at 16 and punched a cop in the face, and he drove me home and we didn't get charged".

However, I don't know any black person who doesn't have a shitty story about a cop. Lots of "your break light is out, oh sorry it's not my bad" at least.


Its staggeringly more and more obvious how many white people don't regularly interact with people of other races.
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Jun 3 2020 01:54pm
So much to respond to.

But I’d like clarification. I can’t find anything about why George Floyd ended up in this situation all I can find is that he was killed. Anyone know why. And I don’t want it doesn’t matter why. I want to know why he was pulled over by them.

This post was edited by Lily_d2 on Jun 3 2020 01:55pm
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Quote (Mangix @ Jun 3 2020 02:48pm)
Its staggeringly more and more obvious how many white people don't regularly interact with people of other races.


Rarely for me. Maybe interacted with 10 for a prolonged period (classes together, work, etc). But the rate is 100%.

I live in a big city now and I probably see more non white people every day than I did my entire life before.

Quote (Lily_d2 @ Jun 3 2020 02:54pm)
So much to response to.

But I’d like clarification. I can’t find anything about why George Floyd ended up in this situation all I can find is that he was killed. Anyone know why. And I don’t want it doesn’t matter why. I want to know why he was pulled over by them.


He was accused of passing off a forged 20 dollar bill and the cops were called.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 3 2020 01:57pm
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