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Feb 27 2020 10:02am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 26 2020 11:17pm)
Your strength of opinion is mismatched with your lack of reading up on the topic. Puberty blockers, if prescribed, are done so often in adherence with the Endocrine Society's recommendation of time-of-prescription being Tanner Stage II development.

Someone who is 8-years-old hasn't come close to Tanner II development, except in rare cases of early onset puberty, which is altogether a far removed and separate medical concern from gender dysphoria.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558


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Feb 27 2020 02:16pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 26 2020 06:41pm)
Cool. Well you keep on using anti-trans slurs and supporting anti-trans hate groups. It's no surprise really given your track record.

You also have said nothing of substance. You've made a bunch of slanderous and hateful claims without evidence.
Take a long walk off a short pier.


Arent trans people forcing a fucking ideology down straight peoples throats and them being forced to address you people in a certain way or we lose oir jobs in certain situations?
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Quote (kalelvszod @ Feb 27 2020 03:16pm)
Arent trans people forcing a fucking ideology down straight peoples throats and them being forced to address you people in a certain way or we lose oir jobs in certain situations?


ideology?
more like broken minds wanting to spread diseases of the mind and body
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Feb 27 2020 02:21pm
Quote (LoLoutLoud @ Feb 27 2020 03:18pm)
ideology?
more like broken minds wanting to spread diseases of the mind and body


Was trying to be polite
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Was trying to be polite


that only encourages them
like Camryn Manheim promoting 'fat acceptance, encouraging people to love being and staying obese
stop eating 7500 calories per day
and stop cutting penises off
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Quote (LoLoutLoud @ Feb 27 2020 03:32pm)
that only encourages them
like Camryn Manheim promoting 'fat acceptance, encouraging people to love being and staying obese
stop eating 7500 calories per day
and stop cutting penises off


Lol
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Feb 27 2020 04:17pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2020 04:53am)
I know they do 9 or 10 year olds for gender identity-based blocking, whether its coupled with early onset puberty or not. But there's been some unclear info on whether the CHLA has administered blockers to an 8 year old or not- I've seen reporting from both CBS and the Heritage Foundation claiming they are, and rando blog posts claiming its fake news, or just splitting hairs over what type of treatment and condition. If it was just one far-right or left-wing source I'd have been more skeptical, but getting both made me think its legit.

If its not, so what. I don't think any of that distinction matters. Whether its 8, 9 or 10 year olds, there's no ability to give informed consent.


There's legal "informed consent" and the spirit of "informed consent". Youth electing to start puberty blockers provide assent with the spirit of informed consent in mind, and are aware of possible outcomes (including risks/side-effects) and expectations. Puberty blockers are also approached as a last option typically, and most pediatricians will encourage families and youth to explore social transition first prior to going straight onto puberty blockers.

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What a wild place indeed.
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Feb 27 2020 04:21pm
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There's legal "informed consent" and the spirit of "informed consent". Youth electing to start puberty blockers provide assent with the spirit of informed consent in mind, and are aware of possible outcomes (including risks/side-effects) and expectations. Puberty blockers are also approached as a last option typically, and most pediatricians will encourage families and youth to explore social transition first prior to going straight onto puberty blockers.


There's no 'legal informed consent and spirit of informed consent'. There's no ability for an 8, 9 or 10 year old child to give informed consent. They cannot be aware and responsible for their own possible outcomes and expectations and risks
What a thin line we are dancing between the arguments of trans activists and arguments of NAMBLA.
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Feb 27 2020 04:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2020 02:21pm)
There's no 'legal informed consent and spirit of informed consent'. There's no ability for an 8, 9 or 10 year old child to give informed consent. They cannot be aware and responsible for their own possible outcomes and expectations and risks
What a thin line we are dancing between the arguments of trans activists and arguments of NAMBLA.


Yes, there is. It's literally what "assent" is.
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Feb 27 2020 05:16pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 27 Feb 2020 22:21)
There's no 'legal informed consent and spirit of informed consent'. There's no ability for an 8, 9 or 10 year old child to give informed consent. They cannot be aware and responsible for their own possible outcomes and expectations and risks
What a thin line we are dancing between the arguments of trans activists and arguments of NAMBLA.


:rofl:

What can I say? I'm not surprised you know jackshit about the law regarding child consent. Not everyhting is sex buddy.
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