if by outcome you mean simply "misleading their audience" sure. but veritas convinces their audience that their reports are representative of the organization as a whole. whereas msm just convince their audience individual facts are more likely than they really are.

it's the difference between saying "i caught that white guy saying nigger (doesnt mention it was rapping to a song) so all white people clearly secretly say nigger every day" vs "we have a anonymous source claiming they heard that white guy say nigger". one is falsely using the "evidence" you can see, the other isnt showing you much of any. obviously the media does sometime mislead by attributing things like racism to trump supporters using anecdotes, but again, MOST of their reporting is just opinionated wild speculation and shadow sources. all, literally all, the only thing veritas does is secret recordings and phony sting operations.

fair. most of my criticisms of you were expecting me to assume facts for the conversation, when i made it very clear i had little knowledge coming into the discussion.
half of this thread is me defending a stance of not assuming facts and comparing accusations vs the examples listed to me. not really defending PV, but stating that the accusations didn't exactly align with the examples listed in some cases.

i'll note to you personally that i usually don't doubt much of what you state, even without proving those words. but again, things were not exactly matching at the start with the first link given to compare to accusations. (granted they were not your links)

ya reading back i pick up your tone better. it was the comparison between msm and okeefe that got me seeing red. plus my tummy is rumbling. my b

i won't say i handled it well either, but thank you. i really didn't mean to give it a bias manipulation. i was just trying to learn in a lazy way i guess.

i do that sometimes too, so im of course hypocritical here. we all do it, try to figure out a topic as we post rather than reading.

edit: i am proud of this tho



This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 16 2020 02:52pm

Two people coming to a mutual understanding is very triggering to me so I'm going to have to ask that you respect that and get back to bickering

Should pitch that to some rando indi director. I'd watch it.

Working Title: "Mute Point"

since this is closest i can get to a topic with this, i'll put it here.

Ben Shapiro laid out pretty well yesterday the case that CNN is actively trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders' campaign.(will link below)
you can say at the least, Bernie was unfairly covered.

today CNN releases on Anderson Cooper's show, the "hot mic" exchange between Sanders and Warren at the end of the last democratic debate.(where Warren snubs Sanders' handshake)
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1217621312056766475
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-debate-audio/index.html



edit: i'm going to rephrase the above statement, "i" could use a lot of what Ben shows in this video along with other circumstances, as evidence to further substantiate that CNN is trying to destroy Bernie's campaign. (not that i really want to, but Ben mostly just covers in this video, things circulating the last democratic debate)

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jan 16 2020 03:51pm

It was late when I posted this. I should have titled the thread The Bernie Bunch