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How did the gay Christians get the Church to admit that being gay was OK? Was there some big Christian gay war I missed somewhere?


Like I said long ago in this topic. "Supposedly", if we believe what muslims tell us... there are way more peaceful muslims, than radical muslims. I would think that they could, since they so absolutely outnumber the crazies... be able to deal with the crazies.
If the crazies can get guns, then the peaceful muslims should be able to get guns, if they want to do it with guns.

If the crazies can get money, then the peaceful muslims should be able to get money, if they want to do it economically.


Just running away to other countries and completely ignoring the problems their own country and faith can create.... is NOT a solution.

And that my friend is why countries like India, the US, and even China (in their own messed up way) are being "forced" by those same peaceful muslims, to take matters into their own hands.


Post 6 and 7 in this topic, since you must have missed them.


if your life was in danger, and/or your kids, you'd run anywhere you thought you would be safe as well.

but please, try the whole "i was in the military (the most powerful one on earth during peace time) so im not a coward and i'd totally find guns from god knows where and fight extremists" thing again.

again, because apparently it needs repeating, the US military with tanks, ground troops, satellite surveillance, fighter jets, and all of the guns and ammo money can buy are terribly ineffective at combating these groups. they're trying, really hard, for decades now. so your whole vague "well they just need to try" with no specifics is still bullshit.

you dont like the idea of brown people coming your way. we all get it. but keep trying.
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if your life was in danger, and/or your kids, you'd run anywhere you thought you would be safe as well.

but please, try the whole "i was in the military (the most powerful one on earth during peace time) so im not a coward and i'd totally find guns from god knows where and fight extremists" thing again.

again, because apparently it needs repeating, the US military with tanks, ground troops, satellite surveillance, fighter jets, and all of the guns and ammo money can buy are terribly ineffective at combating these groups. they're trying, really hard, for decades now. so your whole vague "well they just need to try" with no specifics is still bullshit.

you dont like the idea of brown people coming your way. we all get it. but keep trying.




Blah, blah, blah. I made quite a few very good points. You need to take what I say as a whole.



/e ...and yeah... like the whole entire southern half of the US ran away in the 1860's.

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Blah, blah, blah. I made quite a few very good points. You need to take what I say as a whole.


the tl;dr of your "plan" is that people being bombed by the USA, that have been bombed by the USA for decades in fact, should with words tell boys who's parents died to those bombs not to fight back. apply societal pressure in essence. but also they should find guns, from who knows where, to enforce this, while remaining nonviolent and peaceful (because you got rekt on the whole guns vs peaceful thing already and moved the goalposts).

nobel peace price incoming im sure. right after Trump's for north korea.

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/e ...and yeah... like the whole entire southern half of the US ran away in the 1860's.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)

more historical ignorance from Ghot.....

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the tl;dr of your "plan" is that people being bombed by the USA, that have been bombed by the USA for decades in fact, should with words tell boys who's parents died to those bombs not to fight back. apply societal pressure in essence. but also they should find guns, from who knows where, to enforce this, while remaining nonviolent and peaceful (because you got rekt on the whole guns vs peaceful thing already and moved the goalposts).

nobel peace price incoming im sure. right after Trump's for north korea.




Dude, you're so full of crap it ain't funny. Do you honestly think... you personally... that the US couldn't put the middle east in the stone age in about a month? Do you seriously believe that?
If so, you need to hit the books.

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Dude, you're so full of crap it ain't funny. Do you honestly think... you personally... that the US couldn't put the middle eaast in the stone age in about a month? Dom you seriously believe that?
If so, you need to hit the books.


do you think mass bombing ends extremism?

or are you changing the topic with every post to try and hold onto the false idea that you're right about anything but strawmans? (that's it)
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do you think mass bombing ends extremism?

or are you changing the topic with every post to try and hold onto the false idea that you're right about anything but strawmans? (that's it)




Do you think I was referring to the black southerners? Do you think that accusing me of doing what you're doing (moving goalposts) will fool anyone but a rock?

Read first, then think, then type.


/e ...and yeah. It all depends on how well you bomb. ^^ Iirc, it sure ended the "extremism" in Japan. ^^

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Do you think I was referring to the black southerners? Do you think that accusing me of doing what you're doing (moving goalposts) will fool anyone but a rock?

Read first, then think, then type.


me: "decades of bombing has created extremism"

Ghot: "parenting, education, dumb thoughts on a computer screen"

me: "decades of bombing has created extremism, and we're doing a bad job at fixing it"

Ghot: "iF yOu dOnT tHiNk tHe uSa cAn bOmB tHeM mOrE, rEaD a bOok"

me: "that's a strawman, and not at all what im saying. stop moving the goal posts"

Ghot: "nO yOu dId"


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/e ...and yeah. It all depends on how well you bomb. ^^ Iirc, it sure ended the "extremism" in Japan. ^^


so now we should Nuke who exactly?

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me: "decades of bombing has created extremism"

Ghot: "parenting, education, dumb thoughts on a computer screen"

me: "decades of bombing has created extremism, and we're doing a bad job at fixing it"

Ghot: "iF yOu dOnT tHiNk tHe uSa cAn bOmB tHeM mOrE, rEaD a bOok"

me: "that's a strawman, and not at all what im saying. stop moving the goal posts"

Ghot: "nO yOu dId"


so now we should Nuke who exactly?


Ya see, here's how history really happened. This must be the part you missed in w/e the fuck school you went to.

Sometime after the mid 50's a bunch of morons got together and decided you could have "nice" wars. They were wrong ofc, and the crap we deal with these days, just proves it.



Why did we fight "on the ground" in Vietnam? A: It was to prove that the US could fight a "nice" war. Any general worth even one star could tell you.... that won't work.
Only moron generals say... oh shyt the enemy doesn't have high tech armament...so we shouldn't use our high tech armament.
That's the definition of stupid.

WHY did Japan surrender?
A: Cause we made it quite clear, that if they didn't we would destroy them. Utterly. No amount of UN, LoN, crap would have achieved that. No amount of "nice" war would have achieved that.
THIS is the reality. Whether you choose to SEE that is not my problem... it's yours.

There is no such thing as a "nice" war. It's an oxymoron.

Even in a thousand years, when we can, say, pu7ll, off absolutely pin point exact strikes...there won't be any such thing as a nice war. Civilians WILL die. No one likes that, but that is the reality.
To win a war you have to remove the enemies will to fight... simple as that. How you achieve that is different in almost every case.


W/o even too much effort... you want to win a war in say Afghanistan...take out Kabul. I don't mean blow up a few runways or bldgs. I mean utterly destroy it. Probably irradiate a few waterways as well. War over.


Time to grow up and smell the history.

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Ya see, here's how history really happened. This must be the part you missed in w/e the fuck school you went to.

Sometime after the mid 50's a bunch of morons got together and decided you could have "nice" wars. They were wrong ofc, and the crap we deal with these days, just proves it.



Why did we fight "on the ground" in Vietnam? A: It was to prove that the US could fight a "nice" war. Any general worth even one star could tell you.... that won't work.
Only moron generals say... oh shyt the enemy doesn't have high tech armament...so we shouldn't use our high tech armament.
That's the definition of stupid.

WHY did Japan surrender?
A: Cause we made it quite clear, that if they didn't we would destroy them. Utterly. No amount of UN, LoN, crap would have achieved that. No amount of "nice" war would have achieved that.
THIS is the reality. Whether you choose to SEE that is not my problem... it's yours.

There is no such thing as a "nice" war. It's an oxymoron.

Even in a thousand years, when we can, say, pu7ll, off absolutely pin point exact strikes...there won't be any such thing as a nice war. Civilians WILL die. No one likes that, but that is the reality.
To win a war you have to remove the enemies will to fight... simple as that. How you achieve that is different in almost every case.


W/o even too much effort... you want to win a war in say Afghanistan...take out Kabul. I don't mean blow up a few runways or bldgs. I mean utterly destroy it. Probably irradiate a few waterways as well. War over.


Time to grow up and smell the history.


so to summarize, muslims can solve this peacefully, just like the gays did. (also no one fled the south because it was fucked up after the Civil war) but also peaceful muslims should get guns but not use them. and we need to nuke the middle east like Japan.

but im the goal post mover because i challenged your moronic claim that peaceful muslims can fix this. which led us to you saying we need to use nukes and go all out war. so we got from peace can win to nuke are the only way. but i love the goal posts. lol CLASSIC

challenge time, name one thing in your pointless rant of a post that i even argued against. like even one. just one. plz.

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Ya see, here's how history really happened. This must be the part you missed in w/e the fuck school you went to.

Sometime after the mid 50's a bunch of morons got together and decided you could have "nice" wars. They were wrong ofc, and the crap we deal with these days, just proves it.



Why did we fight "on the ground" in Vietnam? A: It was to prove that the US could fight a "nice" war. Any general worth even one star could tell you.... that won't work.
Only moron generals say... oh shyt the enemy doesn't have high tech armament...so we shouldn't use our high tech armament.
That's the definition of stupid.

WHY did Japan surrender?
A: Cause we made it quite clear, that if they didn't we would destroy them. Utterly. No amount of UN, LoN, crap would have achieved that. No amount of "nice" war would have achieved that.
THIS is the reality. Whether you choose to SEE that is not my problem... it's yours.

There is no such thing as a "nice" war. It's an oxymoron.

Even in a thousand years, when we can, say, pu7ll, off absolutely pin point exact strikes...there won't be any such thing as a nice war. Civilians WILL die. No one likes that, but that is the reality.
To win a war you have to remove the enemies will to fight... simple as that. How you achieve that is different in almost every case.


W/o even too much effort... you want to win a war in say Afghanistan...take out Kabul. I don't mean blow up a few runways or bldgs. I mean utterly destroy it. Probably irradiate a few waterways as well. War over.


Time to grow up and smell the history.



you sure went from being peaceful to nuke countries real quick.
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