d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Only The Best People > Episode Stephen Miller
Prev1789101113Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 105,132
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Nov 21 2019 09:53am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 10:52am)
dodge. shocker.

cant even answer a yes/no question.


im not a coward tho, yes i do. because we have a separation of church and state and christian symbols (the religion i belong to mind you) have no place on a govt building in that respect.





Then you would want "In God We Trust" removed from all coins and paper money as well?



/e Or maybe we should remove "In God is our Trust" in the 4th stanza of The Star Spangled Banner"?



Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 21 2019 09:56am
Member
Posts: 92,959
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,299.94
Nov 21 2019 09:55am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 21 2019 09:53am)
Then you would want "In God We Trust" removed from all coins and paper money as well?


no god isn't exclusive to a single religion. the abrahaimic 3 religions all use it. as well as other religions to a lesser extent.

i dont think anyone should have to swear on a christain bible, or have court buildings with the 10 commandments, or force kids to say "in god we trust" at school.

but i also wouldnt protest it coming off, i care about it almost zero.
Member
Posts: 105,132
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Nov 21 2019 09:57am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 10:55am)
no god isn't exclusive to a single religion. the abrahaimic 3 religions all use it. as well as other religions to a lesser extent.

i dont think anyone should have to swear on a christain bible, or have court buildings with the 10 commandments, or force kids to say "in god we trust" at school.

but i also wouldnt protest it coming off, i care about it almost zero.





The Ten Commandments don't refer to any specific god either.




You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall make no idols.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Keep the Sabbath day holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.



This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 21 2019 09:57am
Member
Posts: 53,548
Joined: Mar 6 2008
Gold: 7,908.33
Nov 21 2019 09:57am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 10:52am)
dodge. shocker.

cant even answer a yes/no question.


im not a coward tho, yes i do. because we have a separation of church and state and christian symbols (the religion i belong to mind you) have no place on a govt building in that respect.


Their biased presentation of a book doesn't refute the overly tame observation that they are a 'left leaning group of troublemakers'.

Bringing up that book does nothing to refute the fact that they are an extremely biased and disreputable smear site.
Member
Posts: 92,959
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,299.94
Nov 21 2019 09:58am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 21 2019 09:57am)
The Ten Commandments don't refer to any specific god either.


the ten commandments refer directly to 3 religions. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.

"god" doesn't refer just to these 3. "god" is a word for any religion.

but like i said, take it off the money, i dont care. in fact ive changed my mind, as a coin collector i'd like a change in the molds so my old coins are worth more.
Member
Posts: 92,959
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,299.94
Nov 21 2019 10:00am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 21 2019 09:57am)
Their biased presentation of a book doesn't refute the overly tame observation that they are a 'left leaning group of troublemakers'.

Bringing up that book does nothing to refute the fact that they are an extremely biased and disreputable smear site.


what came first the chicken or the egg?

does Miller's beliefs matter (this thread) or is the source the only thing that matters (what the OP is built on).

in this case i'd say miller's beliefs score a solid 99 points out of 100. SPLC scores maybe an 80. it matters, we should evaluate the article and it's sources much more than if it was posted by a less biased source. but what they presented still needs to be refuted more than the SPLC itself. unless you think they faked the whole thing and literally all the emails are fake. their take-aways are biased, the emails are just source material.
Member
Posts: 105,132
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Nov 21 2019 10:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 10:58am)
the ten commandments refer directly to 3 religions. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.

"god" doesn't refer just to these 3. "god" is a word for any religion.

but like i said, take it off the money, i dont care. in fact ive changed my mind, as a coin collector i'd like a change in the molds so my old coins are worth more.





I'm gonna skip providing the definitions (original definitions) of the words you must be frerring to in the 10 Commandments, as they all show definitions that have little if any reference to any particular religion.
Member
Posts: 92,959
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,299.94
Nov 21 2019 10:03am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 21 2019 10:01am)
I'm gonna skip providing the definitions (original definitions) of the words you must be frerring to in the 10 Commandments, as they all show definitions that have little if any reference to any particular religion.


are you currently stroking out?

the 10 commandments are literally from the bible's old testament.

i'm not talking about each word being an exclusive Abrahaimic thing you low iq simpleton.

last night hte pic was fake, this morning the 10 commandments aren't an abrahaimic thing.

keep it up smarty pants.
Member
Posts: 105,132
Joined: Apr 25 2006
Gold: 10,475.00
Nov 21 2019 10:09am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 21 2019 11:03am)
are you currently stroking out?

the 10 commandments are literally from the bible's old testament.

i'm not talking about each word being an exclusive Abrahaimic thing you low iq simpleton.

last night hte pic was fake, this morning the 10 commandments aren't an abrahaimic thing.

keep it up smarty pants.




Having a rough day, are we? LOL
Member
Posts: 92,959
Joined: Dec 31 2007
Gold: 2,299.94
Nov 21 2019 10:11am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 21 2019 10:09am)
Having a rough day, are we? LOL


your rough afternoon yesterday made my week. this is excited rage posting. when im actually mad at you it will look like this, note the bitter old family-less tone to it:

Quote (Ghot @ Dec 11 2017 05:07pm)
You, have ceased to exist in my world. You don't deserve my time. You don't deserve...air. Have a nice life, if you're lucky, maybe China will take over the US.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1789101113Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll