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Jul 31 2019 09:45am
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JFC, this has got to be one of the dumbest takes on free speech I've ever seen. SIGNS are a physical representation of speech, the same way books are, art is, the Internet is, etc. These have ALL been held as being protected by the First Amendment. And since the US has no official language, it doesn't matter what language said signs are in. If I choose to express myself in English, French, Swedish, or whatever, the government CANNOT infringe upon my expression, REGARDLESS of the language in which I present it, or the medium in which I convey it.




Good point. So I guess we'll all just make..... Stop signs however we want, just as an example. :/


How about another example... Mrs. Yin calls 911, but dies before they can get to her because the name on the store she was in when she had the heart attack was... 今天真的很愚蠢的想法
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Good point. So I guess we'll all just make..... Stop signs however we want, just as an example. :/


How about another example... Mrs. Yin calls 911, but dies before they can get to her because the name on the store she was in when she had the heart attack was... 今天真的很愚蠢的想法


you make stop signs?

i always figured you were more likely to have made license plates.

also why choose a chinese name for a non chinese speaker? or she speaks english (so she called 9-11) but cant translate her own street name?

great example, keep going with it.

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you make stop signs?

i always figured you were more likely to have made license plates.




I'm so glad you finally understand what I've been saying. Maybe next time it won't take you quite so long.
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Good point. So I guess we'll all just make..... Stop signs however we want, just as an example. :/


How about another example... Mrs. Yin calls 911, but dies before they can get to her because the name on the store she was in when she had the heart attack was... 今天真的很愚蠢的想法


You could put up a sign with just a red octagon and white border, with no words on it, and the vast majority of people would still know what it means. And TIL 911 has no other way of knowing where a location is (especially in this day and age), and ergo, the rights of hundreds of millions should be trampled on, all because you couldn't find an apartment in San Francisco decades ago.

Edit: Also, the average person isn't making stop signs anyway. It's (you guessed it) THE GOVERNMENT.

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I'm so glad you finally understand what I've been saying. Maybe next time it won't take you quite so long.


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You could put up a sign with just a red octagon and white border, with no words on it, and the vast majority of people would still know what it means. And TIL 911 has no other way of knowing where a location is (especially in this day and age), and ergo, the rights of hundreds of millions should be trampled on, all because you couldn't find an apartment in San Francisco decades ago.


lol this. plenty of non english speakers recognize a stop sign by its shape and color.

thats why stop signs, yield signs, speed limits, etc all have distinct shapes and color schemes.

today you are the king of terrible examples that disprove your own posts. that's literally why the signs are how they are, to bridge languages.
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You could put up a sign with just a red octagon and white border, with no words on it, and the vast majority of people would still know what it means. And TIL 911 has no other way of knowing where a location is (especially in this day and age), and ergo, the rights of hundreds of millions should be trampled on, all because you couldn't find an apartment in San Francisco decades ago.




Gee... I wonder why that is? :/

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Gee... I wonder why that is? :/


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lol this. plenty of non english speakers recognize a stop sign by its shape and color.

thats why stop signs, yield signs, speed limits, etc all have distinct shapes and color schemes.

today you are the king of terrible examples that disprove your own posts. that's literally why the signs are how they are, to bridge languages.


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The reason everyone knows it's a stop sign is BECAUSE it's standardized.
Which is the reason it's a good idea to have signs standardized. Like same, shape, same color, same language.



/e I mean if since the invention of the car if some red octagonal signs had said STOP, and others had said EL ALTO... we wouldn't have the clarity of recognition, we do today when we see a stop sign

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The reason everyone knows it's a stop sign is BECAUSE it's standardized.
Which is the reason it's a good idea to have signs standardized. Like same, shape, same color, same language.



/e I mean if since the invention of the car if some red octagonal signs had said STOP, and others had said VAMOS... we wouldn't have the clarity of recognition, we do today when we see a stop sign


Does a Halal restaurant need the same level of recognition as a street sign? You're conflating public signs put up by governmental entities with private signs put up by individuals or businesses.
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The reason everyone knows it's a stop sign is BECAUSE it's standardized.
Which is the reason it's a good idea to have signs standardized. Like same, shape, same color, same language.



/e I mean if since the invention of the car if some red octagonal signs had said STOP, and others had said EL ALTO... we wouldn't have the clarity of recognition, we do today when we see a stop sign


yeah, if i saw a red octogan with no writing i'd probably just ram through the intersection, if it said alto i'd probably reverse and just blindy floor it. i couldnt figure out a 200 iq puzzle like that, just too hard.

i like how you shifted the goalposts from "should states be allowed to use non-english signs" all the way down to "a stop sign has to say stop, or else no one would know what to do".

maybe all stop lights need to be replaced, red and green arent enough, they need to say "GO" in green and "STOP" in red.

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Does a Halal restaurant need the same level of recognition as a street sign? You're conflating public signs put up by governmental entities with private signs put up by individuals or businesses.


inb4 yet another Ghot misunderstanding of public vs private business.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 31 2019 10:06am
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