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Jul 1 2019 12:16pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 1 2019 12:11pm)
Oh yeah. Grandpa understands completely. You're having a bad day and this is the most adult method, so far... that you have for dealing with it. :)


"what illegal policing practices do i support" - Ghot

(thesnipa tells him an example)

"yOuRe nAiVe iF yOu dOnT tHiNk tHaT wIlL hApPeN aGaIn, aS iT sHoUlD" ghot

we both hypothetically support this illegal action in the future, even though i dont support Japanese internment. And i told you it was illegal then and would be now too. and you had a hissy fit and called me naive.

learn to not make false claims if you dont want to get walked though the forums on a leash.
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Jul 1 2019 12:22pm
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"what illegal policing practices do i support" - Ghot

(thesnipa tells him an example)

"yOuRe nAiVe iF yOu dOnT tHiNk tHaT wIlL hApPeN aGaIn, aS iT sHoUlD" ghot

we both hypothetically support this illegal action in the future, even though i dont support Japanese internment. And i told you it was illegal then and would be now too. and you had a hissy fit and called me naive.

learn to not make false claims if you dont want to get walked though the forums on a leash.





I think you're overlooking the phrase: "full scale war". I've only coined that expression about 5-6 times so far.

On top of fallacious reasoning due to unknowable statistics....you've now added equivocation. I say "full scale war" and you HEAR... a tiny little altercation in some 3rd world country. These are NOT equivalent.

Things change overnight and drastically when some country attempts of succeeds in blowing the shyt of of the US or part of it. You kill a similar percentage of Americans (adjusted for inflation) that were killed in Pearl Harbor, today.... and the US govt. will change so fast it'll make you shyt your knickers.




/e And EVERY time something like that happens the US govt. will react the exact same way. AS IT SHOULD !!!!

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I think you're overlooking the phrase: "full scale war". I've only coined that expression about 5-6 times so far.

On top of fallacious reasoning due to unknowable statistics....you've now added equivocation. I say "full scale war" and you HEAR... a tiny little altercation in some 3rd world country. These are NOT equivalent.

Things change overnight and drastically when some country attempts of succeeds in blowing the shyt of of the US or part of it. You kill a similar amount of Americans (adjusted for inflation) that were killed in Pearl Harbor, today.... and the US govt. will change so fast it'll make you shyt your knickers.




/e And EVERY time something like that happens the US govt. will react the exact same way. AS IT SHOULD !!!!


full scale war in another country negates what we do at home, legally?

odd, you asked for an example of illegal policing you support, and have been making a moral argument ever since. whilst calling me naive.

since you're "coining phrases" on the fly, why don't you define naive and make sure to include the phrase "staying on topic and not moving the goalposts" if you want to apply it to me.
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full scale war in another country negates what we do at home, legally?

odd, you asked for an example of illegal policing you support, and have been making a moral argument ever since. whilst calling me naive.

since you're "coining phrases" on the fly, why don't you define naive and make sure to include the phrase "staying on topic and not moving the goalposts" if you want to apply it to me.





I give up Gomer... you'll never get it. That's a sad thing too. ^^
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Jul 1 2019 12:32pm
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I give up Gomer... you'll never get it. That's a sad thing too. ^^


i said i'd round people up if we were attacked by a Nuke, even if i knew it was illegal, to save lives. and i'd deal with the blowback, because i know it would be morally right but illegal nonetheless.

so what, specifically, don't i get?
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i said i'd round people up if we were attacked by a Nuke, even if i knew it was illegal, to save lives. and i'd deal with the blowback, because i know it would be morally right but illegal nonetheless.

so what, specifically, don't i get?




Last comment of this subject because it's not even about the boys in blue, which is what Beo was referring to.

Laws aren't for us, they are to protect the govt. WHEN internement camps are used, they ARE legal. Just because some flower children politicians claim it to be illegal 40-50 years later, doesn't make it so.
I guess my whole point is, you can't take something like internment camps... out of the context of the times.
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Last comment of this subject because it's not even about the boys in blue, which is what Beo was referring to.

Laws aren't for us, they are to protect the govt. WHEN internement camps are used, they ARE legal. Just because some flower children politicians claim it to be illegal 40-50 years later, doesn't make it so.
I guess my whole point is, you can't take something like internment camps... out of the context of the times.


The entire scotus = 1 flower child politician?

or was Ronald Reagan that flower child?

:rolleyes:

"out of the context of the time" vs "as it should" (saying it should be done again)



you have a hard fucking time staying on the topics you raise lmao. it was illegal, you support it anyways. just say "yeah sometimes i support illegal things so when i said that i dont it wasnt correct".

"it wasn't the boys in blue", who do you think took them from their homes? Sure, some army, some cops, some redneck volunteers im sure. it was a witch hunt.

you also haven't covered that they had their property stolen and didnt ever get it back.


you're just not good with the truth old man. you're not good at speaking in specifics. worse yet you act like you know history but dont know anything a 2 min wiki search can't directly discount. you like trump because he makes the same constant verbal fuckups and him in power tells you its ok to be you. he made it to president, you made it to no where.

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Quote (TransTankie @ Jul 1 2019 02:48pm)
Got some things thrown at him.

Might have been punched. Claiming he was attacked with 'assault gloves' lol.

Dude made over 100k so far milking this.

I think it's bad optics but it sure is fun to watch him getting run off -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCty7a9o4Qs

Before you feel too bad for him just remember he's made a career out of helping violent far right cunts to dox, track down and assault people resulting in one girl getting a broken neck at the hands of his proud boy chums... And that's not to mention him calling attacks on LGBT people hoaxes - with special attention given to those committed by, again, his proud boy chums. Crimes they've gloated about committing openly.

So fuck him. If this makes him hide away like Spencer post suckerpunch then that'll be a decent result.


there are laws that exist specifically to prevent mob mentality, a mob is never very smart :wacko: especially when its comprised of individuals ranging from misinformed to downright intellectually deficient. i hope you are the former :blush:
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Jul 1 2019 04:04pm
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what's going to happen is during one of these mob mentality attacks is a rock/object is going to hit someone in the head causing serious damage or death or a person is going to fall and hit their head or a person falls and they end up mob stomping someone into a wheel chair or a coffin

it's lord of the flies with adults that should know better and should be way too busy to have time to do this childish and dangerous bullshit


It already happened. Heather Heyer my dude.
Antifa defends communities from violent, far-right, white supremacist and nazi scum.

The police sure as shit ain't gonna defend those communities - they walk nazi parades through pride with an armed escort. In Portland they are liasing with the Proud Boys and spreading their propaganda for them.
Antifa make the streets safer by making the fash scared.

You're right though - this is a war. Make no mistake about it. There will be more injuries and deaths until the authorities step up and do their job of keeping people safe so the vigilantes don't have to.
But that won't happen because, as we have found out through multiple cases, the police and army are infested with white supremacists and members of violent, far right groups like the Proud Boys.
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It already happened. Heather Heyer my dude.
Antifa defends communities from violent, far-right, white supremacist and nazi scum.

The police sure as shit ain't gonna defend those communities - they walk nazi parades through pride with an armed escort. In Portland they are liasing with the Proud Boys and spreading their propaganda for them.
Antifa make the streets safer by making the fash scared.

You're right though - this is a war. Make no mistake about it. There will be more injuries and deaths until the authorities step up and do their job of keeping people safe so the vigilantes don't have to.
But that won't happen because, as we have found out through multiple cases, the police and army are infested with white supremacists and members of violent, far right groups like the Proud Boys.


simple question, what % of proudboys bring weapons to protests, versus what % of ANTIFA bring weapons?

because i've seen a shocking lack of Proud Boy weapon attacks. no doubt they throw down with their hands quite often, and some do use weapons, but most of the batteries, pepper spray (especially this), batons, etc have been in masked fuckboi hands.
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