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Mar 8 2018 12:43pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 8 2018 12:41pm)
Yeah, the capitalists have destroyed our middle class through outsourcing and have tricked people into blaming Mexicans.


if they continued to pay them more than they were worth the cost of the products would raise to the point that the middle class couldnt afford to buy the products they make.

scapegoating mexicans for our issues is silly tho, as the genius Kelly Osborne once put it "who do you think is going to clean your toilets?"
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Mar 8 2018 12:55pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 8 2018 10:54am)
Supremacy clause

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There is no federal law that requires states and local governments to spend money devoting resources to assisting federal agents who they have already paid for through federal taxes. How many times do I have to say this?

To see how all-in you stupid fucks go arguing against classic conservative talking points is just embarrassing. Trump ate your brains.

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Mar 8 2018 05:29pm
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There is no federal law that requires states and local governments to spend money devoting resources to assisting federal agents who they have already paid for through federal taxes. How many times do I have to say this?

To see how all-in you stupid fucks goarguing against classic conservative talking points is just embarrassing. Trump ate your brains.


You keep bringing this up (bolded part). It's just not true.
It costs the State nothing to allow the Feds to have the illegal aliens.

The Feds are payed for by the taxes from all 50 states. You make it sound like Cali has to pay. They don't, they just have to stop obstructing justice.

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Mar 8 2018 05:32pm
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You keep bringing this up (bolded part). It's just not true.
It costs the State nothing to allow the Feds to have the illegal aliens.

The Feds are payed for by the taxes from all 50 states. You make it sound like Cali has to pay. They don't, they just have to stop obstructing justice.


Lets just wait three more years so justice can be defined by just people and not people who have the souls of whores like the rabble there now.

Obstruct obstruct obstruct.
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Mar 8 2018 05:39pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 8 2018 06:32pm)
Lets just wait three more years so justice can be defined by just people and not people who have the souls of whores like the rabble there now.

Obstruct obstruct obstruct.


So "justice can be defined" ???

Illegal aliens are...illegal. Sanctuary cities are illegal. There are no definitions of justice needed.

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Mar 8 2018 06:02pm
Quote (Ghot @ Mar 8 2018 06:39pm)
So "justice can be defined" ???

Illegal aliens are...illegal. Sanctuary cities are illegal. There are no definitions of justice needed.


Yes. What the actual fuck. By your reasoning you would defend the Holocaust, Jim Crow, and slavery, all of which are legal.

And yes justice is defined. It is even distributed, based on power.

Goggle Aristotle or something.

Or answer what is justice without using itself as its own definition, because you would do that.

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Mar 8 2018 06:31pm
just think of the media reported obama when he was deporting a shit ton of motherfuckers...there wouldn't be any ink left
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Quote (Skinned @ Mar 8 2018 07:02pm)
Yes. What the actual fuck. By your reasoning you would defend the Holocaust, Jim Crow, and slavery, all of which are legal.

And yes justice is defined. It is even distributed, based on power.

Goggle Aristotle or something.

Or answer what is justice without using itself as its own definition, because you would do that.




You're actually comparing the holocaust and slavery to illegal aliens? Illegal aliens will never be legal in the US. They probably won't ever be legal in any country.
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Mar 9 2018 09:44am
California politicians looked like fools on the air.

How does this convince people of anything? :wacko:
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Quote (ampoo @ Mar 8 2018 04:54am)
instead of shielding illegal migrants maybe these californian open border politicians should tackle some actual problems

http://www.ksby.com/story/37598734/exodus-of-the-middle-class-from-the-central-coast
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5212977/Californias-middle-class-homeless-living-parking-lots.html
657,690 people left California in 2016 -- the highest rate in the nation.
so they want to import even more illegals and keep them in the states, while middle class citizens are leaving, oh dear

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html
55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

highest poverty rate in the united states, but lets put some more pressure on the housing market and let citizens and migrants fight for the scraps


People come to California to be homeless because it's a high population density area, an affluent area (and thus more opportunity to panhandle effectively) and most of all, has a weather pattern where you can survive the winter outdoors. The poverty rate is a function of people in poverty migrating here, not people of reasonable standing sliding backwards into it.

Quote (Ghot @ Mar 7 2018 04:31pm)
Please send me some of w/e it is you're smoking. It's gotta be some of Cali's best. :D


Speaking of weed, the major argument here is that the federal government should treat the illegal immigration issue much like the illegal marijuana issue.

Quote (Ghot @ Mar 8 2018 06:04pm)
You're actually comparing the holocaust and slavery to illegal aliens? Illegal aliens will never be legal in the US. They probably won't ever be legal in any country.


By definition of the term "illegal", they will never be legal. Good work, next define just as "avoiding that which is unjust."

Quote (Ghot @ Mar 8 2018 04:39pm)
So "justice can be defined" ???

Illegal aliens are...illegal. Sanctuary cities are illegal. There are no definitions of justice needed.


Just because something is legal does not mean it is right.

Quote (Skinned @ Mar 8 2018 05:02pm)
Yes. What the actual fuck. By your reasoning you would defend the Holocaust, Jim Crow, and slavery, all of which are legal.

And yes justice is defined. It is even distributed, based on power.

Goggle Aristotle or something.

Or answer what is justice without using itself as its own definition, because you would do that.


The good life is the just life, of course! Collectivized parenting with philosopher-kings!
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