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Sep 5 2017 11:07am
Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Sep 2017 18:03)
And yet they still benefit from social programs. Hence imposing a burden, which isn't offset by their taxes.
If you want to argue that they're economically helpful to business to power the stock market on their pseudoslave labor, sure, that's a valid fiscal argument. But then I have to start docking points from the weight of morality.


I weight the morality based on letting DACA recipients gain a working/taxpaying status within the society by giving their information and where they live to the government, whom after getting information where they live, makes them illegal again.

/e we're also talking about the right to go to universities here. An important tool to increase their income and revenue for the US later in life.
Income of these ppl have already gone up under DACA, due to them being more protected from pseudoslave labor.

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Sep 5 2017 11:20am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 5 Sep 2017 13:06)
. btw what about the time from 2008 to 2010 when democrats controlled the white house and the house of representatives, and had a supermajority in the sentate? why didnt they pass immigration reform at that time?


same reason why they didnt pass legislation to rip down confederate statues, and same reason why President Obama and the (D) candidate in 2016 Secretary (C)linton were opposed to gay marriage at the time.

It wasnt politically expident then.

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Sep 5 2017 02:42pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Sep 2017 17:39)
And? Illegal immigrants are poorer than most. It logically follows.



Heritage laid out which benefits illegals actually receive and which they don't. In fact, that was the major point of the link, because it was particularly examining what would happen if amnesty was granted and illegals became eligible for those benefits they don't currently receive;



Like I said, its very hard for us to have an honest discussion on immigration in 2017 isn't it?


... and another dodge concerning the crime statistics, the fact that this targets the very immigrants you should be most keen to actually keep, and that illegal immigration is NOT the immense problem that the right wing misrepresents it as...
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Sep 5 2017 02:58pm
Quote (fender @ 5 Sep 2017 22:42)
... and another dodge concerning the crime statistics, the fact that this targets the very immigrants you should be most keen to actually keep, and that illegal immigration is NOT the immense problem that the right wing misrepresents it as...


there is no problem at all with illegal migrant crime gangs in the united states :lol:
looks like only certain news reach you under that cozy rock of yours
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Sep 5 2017 03:04pm
Quote (ampoo @ 5 Sep 2017 21:58)
there is no problem at all with illegal migrant crime gangs in the united states :lol:
looks like only certain news reach you under that cozy rock of yours


when you can't distinguish between the very much real problem of illegal migrant crime and someone asking about actual statistics concerning this topic...
speaking of rocks, you not only seem to live under one, it also seems to hit your head quite regularly apparently...
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Sep 5 2017 03:24pm
Quote (Ghot @ 5 Sep 2017 17:14)


wow more people with no jobs or careers to go to today, after a holiday weekend, spending the day protesting :wacko:

thought all these individuals were rocket surgeons and highly educated and gainfully employed, why wouldnt any country be bending over to take them in?!?!?!?!?!
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Sep 5 2017 03:55pm
its funny how fast "we're only going after the violent criminals" turned into "dey took err jerbs" isnt it?
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Sep 5 2017 03:57pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 5 2017 05:55pm)
its funny how fast "we're only going after the violent criminals" turned into "dey took err jerbs" isnt it?


SAD!
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Sep 5 2017 04:00pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 5 2017 04:55pm)
its funny how fast "we're only going after the violent criminals" turned into "dey took err jerbs" isnt it?


Given that schooling and or military enlistment is a requirement for DACA, they probably did take their jobs. But not for the reasons they think, heh.
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