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its w/e...

it made them stronger, they run the world now
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What?


We already went through this. A million and a half Jews in the gas chambers, and the other four and a half million by death squads, forced labor, etc. There's PLENTY of evidence of the Holocaust. It is one of the most documented atrocities of all history.
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We already went through this. A million and a half Jews in the gas chambers, and the other four and a half million by death squads, forced labor, etc. There's PLENTY of evidence of the Holocaust. It is one of the most documented atrocities of all history.


No it is not. Show me a picture of one of these gas chambers. I know you're lying because the actual number of Jews who died in the Holocaust is less than 6 million. Alot of bad things happened during WW2 but gas chambers and deaths squads are nothing more than a fable.
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No it is not. Show me a picture of one of these gas chambers. I know you're lying because the actual number of Jews who died in the Holocaust is less than 6 million. Alot of bad things happened during WW2 but gas chambers and deaths squads are nothing more than a fable.


Gonna cite that one guy who tested the gas chambers and found nothing, even though his results can't be replicated and he's a known bigot?
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No it is not. Show me a picture of one of these gas chambers. I know you're lying because the actual number of Jews who died in the Holocaust is less than 6 million. Alot of bad things happened during WW2 but gas chambers and deaths squads are nothing more than a fable.


Auschwitz:



And they didn't have to die IN the gas chambers to have been a part of the Holocaust.

Here is testimony about the Einsatzgruppen.



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Look at the door on that "gas chamber" and go google a picture of an ACTUAL gas chamber. Look at the fucking door! Why aren't the walls stained completely BLUE because of the Zyklon B residue. It's not there and I'll tell you why it's not there. The Holocaust is a fable.

German soldiers were tortured by the British and the Russians after the war so you can't take any of this to be factual. I'm pretty sure something a little more tangible would have come up. And I am perfectly fine discounting testimonies because the Allies wanted to go to war with Germany before it even started. They wanted to slap them back down because they were getting too strong again. Even FDR goaded the Japanese into attacking Pear Harbor by placing an embargo on Japan.



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Look at the door on that "gas chamber" and go google a picture of an ACTUAL gas chamber.


Is this where we start down a path of "do your own research" like card_sultan and his flat Earth? The intact gas chambers have been analyzed for the presence of cyanide compounds and been found to be present in not-insubstantial quantities. Unlike the barracks or other living buildings - which were also subjected to zyklon B for delousing. No, the gas chambers were repeatedly subjected to zyklon b, which is why it can still be detected, even today.

/e ...and since you want to cite the findings in the Leuchter report, let's point out how it's already been debunked, including "Prussian blue."

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Look at the door on that "gas chamber" and go google a picture of an ACTUAL gas chamber. Look at the fucking door! Why aren't the walls stained completely BLUE because of the Zyklon B residue. It's not there and I'll tell you why it's not there. The Holocaust is a fable.


The gassing of people only took like 10 minutes after which the chambers were cleared and pumped out.

Residue would kill your workers disposing of the bodies so we don't expect enough to remain to make a blue color.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuchter_report

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The problem with Prussian blue is that it is by no means a categorical sign of cyanide exposure.[4] One factor necessary in its formation is a very high concentration of cyanide.[4] In terms of the difference between amounts measured in the delousing chambers and homicidal gas chambers, critics explain that the exact opposite of what deniers claim is true. Insects have a far higher resistance to cyanide than humans, with concentration levels up to 16,000ppm (parts per million) and an exposure time of more than 20 hours[5] (sometimes as long as 72 hours) being necessary for them to succumb. In contrast, a cyanide concentration of only 300ppm is fatal to humans in a matter of minutes.[6] This difference is one of the reasons behind the concentration disparity. Another exceedingly sensitive factor by which very small deviances could determine whether Prussian blue may form is pH. This element could be affected even by just the presence of human beings.[4] Also, while the delousing chambers were left intact, the ruins of the crematoria at Birkenau had been exposed to the elements for over forty years by the time Leuchter collected his samples. This would have severely affected his results, because unlike Prussian blue and other iron based cyanides, cyanide salts are highly soluble in water.[4]

Since the formation of Prussian blue is not an unconditional outcome of exposure to cyanide, it is not a reliable indicator. Leuchter and Rudolf claim to have measured much more cyanide in the delousing chambers than in the homicidal gas chambers, but since they did not discriminate against an unreliable factor, Green maintains that instant bias is introduced into their experiments.[4] Similarly, Rudolf acknowledges that Prussian blue does not always form upon exposure to cyanide and is thus not a reliable marker, yet continues to include the iron compounds in his analysis. Green describe this as "disingenuous".[6] Since a building that contains Prussian blue staining would exhibit much higher levels of detectable cyanides than one without anyway, Green writes that Leuchter's and Rudolf's measurements reveal nothing more than what is already visible to the naked eye.[4]
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Aug 21 2017 07:05am
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Is this where we start down a path of "do your own research" like card_sultan and his flat Earth? The intact gas chambers have been analyzed for the presence of cyanide compounds and been found to be present in not-insubstantial quantities. Unlike the barracks or other living buildings - which were also subjected to zyklon B for delousing. No, the gas chambers were repeatedly subjected to zyklon b, which is why it can still be detected, even today.

/e ...and since you want to cite the findings in the Leuchter report, let's point out how it's already been debunked, including "Prussian blue."


It can be detected. Zyklon B leaves a deep dark blue stain when it is used. Being "detected" does not mean it was used as a gas chamber.
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