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Sep 11 2015 06:52am
I remember I was in sixth grade science class. My teacher turned on the tv for a second and then immediately turned it off. I remember everyone was muttering about something that happened but I don't really think any of us were able to comprehend it.
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Sep 11 2015 06:57am
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 10 2015 06:39pm)
Yawn.

14 years and y'all still won't drop the fucking victim act. Shit's so old and boring now.

If you don't know someone who died in the event then you should be over it by now... Shit you shoulda been over it 10 years ago. All this ceremony and bluster is just people attempting to appropriate a tragedy into their own story to make themselves feel more important. The old 'I was there when'. Except they weren't even there. They just heard about it on the news.

It's honestly just pathetic now. Pathetic and not just a little contemptible.


Nah more like your a pathetic piece of shit for saying this ^^
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Sep 11 2015 07:01am
Quote (Comus @ 11 Sep 2015 05:32)
It is wrong to take pride in war, and that includes a war on terror.



can you not comprehend what people write? I abhor all forms of war...arg.. your not giving 2 fucks about a trigger that set off a chain of events that have forever changed the US and the middle East just shows a immature shallowness which you'll undoubtedly be embarrassed about someday.

Scaly....You get bent out of shape when people are allowed to preach hurtful sermons from soapboxes on the street corners in your neighborhood don't even start on us getting emotional on the single day thousands of our civilians were killed. It's just childish.
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Sep 11 2015 07:06am
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 11 2015 03:15am)
Just calling it as I see it. No bullshit here... just fucking bored of hearing about this shit. Was 14 years ago - why y'all gotta make such a big deal over it? Don't hear us raving about the bus bombings every year... It's only Americans who have to try and appropriate other people's tragedies into their own stories. You guys just love the drama and attention. For the majority of people on this forum 9/11 was fuck all to do with them and yet they whine about it like it was something that actually affected them when the only way it actually did affect them is by them latching onto it and absorbing it into their idiotic, nationalist identities.


Yeeeeeah....no. I had family in the pentagon whose offices were in the area hit. That morning we were in a panic wondering if they were okay. We didn't hear from them until late into the night they were in meetings luckily and weren't injured. But they lost coworkers and colleagues that day.

There were a lot of people affected by the actual attacks and then the subsequent aftermath. My sister's husband at the time was recalled into active duty. We had to explain to my 4 year old nephew why his dad had to leave for 9 months to a place my nephew couldn't even pronounce.

You honestly sound like you're just trying to be an edgy piece of shit who completely ignores it's hard to move on when we're still actively involved in Afghanistan. Just because you have the attention span of a small lizard doesn't mean the rest of us will ignore the reasons we're still fighting a war which has been going on for over a decade.

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Sep 11 2015 07:23am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Sep 11 2015 02:33am)
What? what the tin foil hattery heck are you even saying at this point? It's not just specific theory on who the terrorists were. There was a through bi-partisan congressional investigation into who these terrorists were. There is no speculation or theory crafting.

The thing that you conspiracy nuts and truthers have to ask yourselves is; "to what end?" War? don't you think that there would be an easier way to galvanize our nation into action? Shoot down a helicopter overseas and kill a few Marines. That would have been enough to set our war machine into action. Create a coups in Iran or Iraq.etc... we always jump into those.

For all of his faults GWB. wasn't a traitor. he is a patriot who loves America, and gave eight years of his life up to lead her. I don't think he would be capable of signing off on a plan as terrible as you are suggesting. There is a difference between having a difference of political opinion and accusing the other side of that kind of domestic terrorism. The Republicans care just as much as the Democrats do about America, we each just have different opinions of how we'd like to get stuff done. But neither side is capable of slaughtering over two thousand of it's own people there are too many true heroes on both sides that would stop a plan like that. This is real life not a Clancy novel.


I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just saying that it's entirely possible that it was an inside job--and not that it definitely was. I'm not a republican or a democrat, I think the political dichotomy is ridiculous.

The fact that there are so many heroes that would stop it doesn't matter if only 5 people knew about the plan...

As for the extensive investigation, have you ever heard of the Halabja chemical attack? It was an act of genocide by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds, while Saddam was still an American asset. The entire world concluded that Saddam was responsible, except America. Canada, for instance, condemned it as a crime against humanity be Hussein's regime. The US state department, DIA and CIA investigated and concluded that the attack was carried out by Iran, which was very clearly not the case. Saddam's cousin "Chemical Ali" was eventually put to death, after Saddam, based on evidence of his involvement in the Halabja attack. There is even evidence that American officials knew for a fact that it was Saddam who was carrying out these chemical attacks against innocent people, and still helped him in the war against Iran.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

It doesn't matter how great an investigation is if the cover-up is simple and conducted intelligently, the CIA is very capable of doing so, and history has shown that they're willing to kill American citizens in false flag operations to get American support for wars, so what is your argument? Do you think the CIA is unwilling or unable to do something like this?

You're right, this isn't a Tom Clancy book--I don't think you really realize that though. It's not a battle between good and evil, it's far more complicated than that. Good people are entirely capable of doing terrible things when they think the good outweighs the bad.
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Sep 11 2015 07:43am
Quote (sylvannos @ 11 Sep 2015 13:06)
Yeeeeeah....no. I had family in the pentagon whose offices were in the area hit. That morning we were in a panic wondering if they were okay. We didn't hear from them until late into the night they were in meetings luckily and weren't injured. But they lost coworkers and colleagues that day.

There were a lot of people affected by the actual attacks and then the subsequent aftermath. My sister's husband at the time was recalled into active duty. We had to explain to my 4 year old nephew why his dad had to leave for 9 months to a place my nephew couldn't even pronounce.

You honestly sound like you're just trying to be an edgy piece of shit who completely ignores it's hard to move on when we're still actively involved in Afghanistan. Just because you have the attention span of a small lizard doesn't mean the rest of us will ignore the reasons we're still fighting a war which has been going on for over a decade.


9/11 is not the reason. You were fighting that war long before 9/11. If anything the war is the reason for 9/11... not the other way round.

... and if you look at my post you'll see I specifically said most people aren't directly affected by it. Sorry if you were... but if nobody died or sustained permanent injury you should be fucking over it by now as well. 14 years man... 14 fucking years.

Quote (josh2234 @ 11 Sep 2015 12:57)
Nah more like your a pathetic piece of shit for saying this ^^


Yea? Why's that?

e/ also - you're*

This post was edited by Scaly on Sep 11 2015 07:43am
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Sep 11 2015 07:47am
Quote (Shadowoffury @ 11 Sep 2015 08:23)
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just saying that it's entirely possible that it was an inside job--and not that it definitely was. I'm not a republican or a democrat, I think the political dichotomy is ridiculous.

The fact that there are so many heroes that would stop it doesn't matter if only 5 people knew about the plan...

As for the extensive investigation, have you ever heard of the Halabja chemical attack? It was an act of genocide by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds, while Saddam was still an American asset. The entire world concluded that Saddam was responsible, except America. Canada, for instance, condemned it as a crime against humanity be Hussein's regime. The US state department, DIA and CIA investigated and concluded that the attack was carried out by Iran, which was very clearly not the case. Saddam's cousin "Chemical Ali" was eventually put to death, after Saddam, based on evidence of his involvement in the Halabja attack. There is even evidence that American officials knew for a fact that it was Saddam who was carrying out these chemical attacks against innocent people, and still helped him in the war against Iran.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

It doesn't matter how great an investigation is if the cover-up is simple and conducted intelligently, the CIA is very capable of doing so, and history has shown that they're willing to kill American citizens in false flag operations to get American support for wars, so what is your argument? Do you think the CIA is unwilling or unable to do something like this?

You're right, this isn't a Tom Clancy book--I don't think you really realize that though. It's not a battle between good and evil, it's far more complicated than that. Good people are entirely capable of doing terrible things when they think the good outweighs the bad.



I think most Americans my age know this it's pretty common knowledge it was at the time. I'm not a believer in all the goberment tells me. 9/11 would not could not be a 5 man need to know mission come on 007 for fuck's sake use some common sense. Quit watching u-tube and go out in the sun for a while, the vitamin D will do you some good

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Sep 11 2015 07:50am
Quote (Devil_kin @ Sep 11 2015 01:52am)
bush did 9/11


bush and cheney did 9/11
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Sep 11 2015 08:27am
how can we forget? the aftermath is ongoing.....
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Sep 11 2015 08:53am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Sep 11 2015 06:01am)
can you not comprehend what people write? I abhor all forms of war...arg.. your not giving 2 fucks about a trigger that set off a chain of events that have forever changed the US and the middle East just shows a immature shallowness which you'll undoubtedly be embarrassed about someday.

Scaly....You get bent out of shape when people are allowed to preach hurtful sermons from soapboxes on the street corners in your neighborhood don't even start on us getting emotional . It's just childish.


Excuse me for offending your delicate sensibilities - But, I am not being shallow as in disconnected from the horrors of 9/11, rather just enlightened to the state of the world in general. I don't see anyone writing sob stories about Rawanda every year - because it's not your country.

I understand this is a sensitive topic, but I'd appreciate if you didn't resort to personal attacks.
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