This is true, but I think that just makes my point clearer. If the secretary is oblivious to whether or not the information she is sharing is deemed top secret by the intelligence community, there should be a strict standard for the way that information is shared.

I'm not defending Colin Powell, which is why I've intentionally avoided commenting on it. American government officials who are privy to incredibly sensitive information should not be allowed to conduct government business through private emails or servers.



Fuck off.

So I can't post but you're allowed to spread lies and incoherent paragraphs around here? Totally not fair bro. I think you need to embrace your decision to stand behind Hillary even if it means that in the end her campaign will crash and burn.

Funny how this hasn't been an issue until Hillary Clinton. I bet every sec of state prior to her did the same thing.

This just seems like another contrived nothingburger scandal that the GOP is getting known for. They are seriously having a credibility problem. Right now, if they were to whistleblow something big that was actually happening, many people just wouldn't believe it because they're so dishonest 95% of the time otherwise for the sake of ideology.

I think the very nature of how something can be retroactively deemed classified pretty much exonerates the people who sent and received that correspondence when they did. There already exists a record that those emails were sent throughout the department to and from other official addresses. If the correspondence was actually classified at the time then that'd be a much larger issue. But this sampling in itself goes to show that if security is the issue then it should reflect concerns that involve the entire department, and not the homebrew server specifically. If regular inter-departmental correspondence was vulnerable then we're onto a whole other issue other than individual negligence.

On the last point I agree, which is why I'd have liked to see this story advance in the opposite direction. Rather than "Clinton Rules" taking over in the media, we should be having a large-scale discussion on how the technology our electeds and officials use is outdated to the point where they find a private email to be a viable alternative, or a homebrew server beyond that. Unfortunately we never get those types of discussions though, especially when they involve a Clinton.



There isn't any part of a single one of my posts that is a "lie." If you're dumb enough to make that charge then you better back it up substantively, rather than herping and derping.

Posting isn't the issue. Posting hurr durr bullshit and regurgitating chain email babble is. That garbage can go anywhere else. I would encourage everyone to post here so long as they can manage to not trip over the bar resting on the floor.

This post was edited by Pollster on Aug 16 2015 10:54am

Okay now I see that you're mad I'll back off a little I know its going to be tough not having a viable candidate to pass the presidential torch. Great video of Carson that you posted also btw. I'm really just waiting on the democratic primary which I think is going to be next month maybe? I consider myself a Republican but I'll tell you something Jay if trump was running on the democratic side I'd be voting for him still. The game has changed in the world of politics and it's about damn time. If there would be a sanders vs trump card I wouldn't care who wins because I know both sides would try to make the most of it.

This post was edited by stimpy6298 on Aug 16 2015 11:00am

I wasn't following politics closely when I was 12, so I'm not sure if the Colin Powell private email was a talking point for Democrats. I'm sure it was. Both sides attack when there is an opening, and this is clearly an opening. Do you disagree with the FBI investigating?

Let's ignore the politics for a second. Should high-level government officials with access to incredibly sensitive information be allowed to use private emails/servers for official government business?

@bold: We need to have a list of cringe-worthy words that are banned on PaRD.

Bold: It was not. It was the definition of a non-story. Even when Bush officials were conducting official W.H. business on private email accounts that were housed on the RNC server, and then 5+ million of them magically disappeared, it still never generated outrage like this (feigned or real). And I'm obviously not a fan of false equivalence. This isn't a "both sides attack" situation because Powell didn't face anything like this, then or now, and it doesn't have anything to do with him not being a presidential candidate. It was simply not an issue.

There should be absolutely no private email use of any kind. The entire communication infrastructure that is used, all the way down to Congressional staff, should be overhauled.

Lol, this is the exact type of bullshit I expect from you. Had someone else written it about Team Donkey, you'd be belittling it over "false equivalencies, blah blah blah."

Rand is pretty short.

Except that the comparison wasn't a false equivalence whatsoever. Both Clinton and Powell engaged in the same practice, albeit Powell's correspondence was even less secure. Clinton and Bush (and the others mentioned engaged in the same practice, too.

We can't just pretend that this isn't the case simply because that'd be convenient for you.