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Jun 7 2013 09:20am
Quote (Santara @ Jun 7 2013 05:46am)
No, that's "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"


Bloody peasant!

@OP: Don't care much, setting one age for all weapons would be more consistent I suppose. Registration of all handguns along with mandatory training would be nice.
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Jun 7 2013 09:20am
Quote (SwaziSpring @ 6 Jun 2013 18:29)
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The fact remains that this law only affects law abiding citizens. Only law abiding citizens follow the law, underage gangbangers in Chicago don't care about the law and obtain their weapons from illegal sources. Therefore if the argument is to prevent gangbangers from owning guns, then it is clearly a failure. In addition, the law prevents 18, 19 and 20 year olds from defending themselves and presumes that their lives are worthless and not worth preserving.
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why do you repeat this silly pro-gun strawman?

but to the poll
imo the same age should apply for voting, military service, obtaining a gun licence, drinking hard liquor, etc
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Jun 7 2013 09:34am
Quote (SwaziSpring @ Jun 7 2013 09:06am)
To be fair, the Founding Fathers wanted everyone to bear arms, in fact, they even forced all men to bear arms and receive training; this law remained in place until the early 20th century.



They also wanted blacks to be slaves and women to stay home and not vote. They had a lot of outmoded ideas. Because the Founding Fathers said so isn't a free pass.
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Jun 7 2013 07:15pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Jun 6 2013 04:24pm)
what guns? where are they getting these guns? this isnt the movies where everyone in the world knows a guy who sells handguns with the seriel number filed off.

i would imagine 95% of 18 year old highschool students are not be able to get a hold of a hand gun and bring it to their campus. if the law reduced the legal age to purchase a handgun down to 18, 100% of highschool 18 year olds would be able to bring one onto school grounds.

same goes for alcohol. 18 year olds should not be able to buy alcohol because if they could, every 14 year old in the country would know 200 people they can ask to buy it for them.

LOL, so 18 year old Americans can't be trusted with handguns or alcohol? I guess Canadians are just more mature than they are, because we're allowed those things at 18 and 19.
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Jun 7 2013 07:23pm
I believe the legal adult age should be raised to 21... has there been a supreme court case where an 18 year old has sued for a violation of his 2nd amendment?
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Jun 7 2013 07:32pm
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I believe the legal adult age should be raised to 21... has there been a supreme court case where an 18 year old has sued for a violation of his 2nd amendment?

Well now that you mention it, they should.
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Jun 7 2013 07:47pm
Quote (nobrow @ Jun 7 2013 06:23pm)
I believe the legal adult age should be raised to 21... has there been a supreme court case where an 18 year old has sued for a violation of his 2nd amendment?


It's kind of important for people to be of the age of majority after finishing High School, so the age really should stay at 18, despite the fact that our brain doesn't really stop its rapid development until 25.
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Jun 7 2013 09:11pm
Quote (nobrow @ Jun 7 2013 08:23pm)
I believe the legal adult age should be raised to 21... has there been a supreme court case where an 18 year old has sued for a violation of his 2nd amendment?


Most likely the lawsuit would be about the Equal Protection clause, not the Second Amendment.
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Jun 9 2013 01:37am
if you can fight and die for your country, you can carry a weapon.
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Jun 9 2013 10:00am
Quote (Wakeskater77 @ Jun 6 2013 05:43pm)
The younger you are, the more likely you are to shoot someone, or be shot by someone else your own age:



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001457510000114

This is then unequivocal evidence that the younger you are, the more likely you are to shoot someone, or be shot by someone your own age.

Ceterbis paribus, it is then prudent to restrict gun ownership, especially handguns, to young people.

If we know that the younger you are, the greater chance there is of you getting shot by someone your age or you shooting someone else, then the higher the age for ownership of handguns, then there will be fewer young people getting shot.

So I've used evidence to prove my point, lets see if you can as well.

How many 18-21 year olds use or require a handgun for self defense? Does the benefit of having a gun for self defense outweigh the evident increased risk from owning a gun at such a young age? This is something you now have to prove.


No, I don't, but nice straw man attempt. I never argued whether the benefits of whatever percentage of 18-20 year olds having the ability to own handguns outweigh the rationale against it. I simply stated that, just because you don't see any benefit does not mean one does not exist.

Thanks for playing.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Jun 9 2013 10:08am
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