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#81
Jul 2 2012 02:13pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 09:04am)
Allah created everything and he shows us clear signs by giving us these challenges that no mortal being can ever do. Simple.

That is the lesson to be learnt here. Good luck next time trying to understand it on your own before someone spells it out plainly for you.


No, the Christian God did noob.

Also, still haven't responded to my rebuttals, I'll take that as a concession. GG t4t
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#82
Jul 2 2012 02:22pm
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Allah created everything and he shows us clear signs by giving us these challenges that no mortal being can ever do. Simple.

That is the lesson to be learnt here. Good luck next time trying to understand it on your own before someone spells it out plainly for you.


Show me some of these "clear signs"

Because as it stands you haven't shown me Allah or his ability to create. Christians use the same "proof" you just gave, as do people who believe in Zeus. Something is not evidence if it can be used to support a conclusions that refutes your own.
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#83
Jul 2 2012 02:51pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 2 2012 08:13pm)
No, the Christian God did noob.

Also, still haven't responded to my rebuttals, I'll take that as a concession. GG t4t


Your dogmatic nonsense is not even close to a rebuttal; better luck next time.
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Jul 2 2012 02:53pm
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Show me some of these "clear signs"

Because as it stands you haven't shown me Allah or his ability to create.  Christians use the same "proof" you just gave, as do people who believe in Zeus.  Something is not evidence if it can be used to support a conclusions that refutes your own.


In case you haven't noticed, the Qur'an itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 1,400 years. Why? Because simply no one other than Allah himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.
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#85
Jul 2 2012 02:56pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 04:53pm)
In case you haven't noticed, the Qur'an itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 1,400 years. Why? Because simply no one other than Allah himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.


PoleGagger's opinion?

By the way, you seem to conveniently skip over the post that point out weaks areas in your argument.
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#86
Jul 2 2012 02:58pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 02:53pm)
In case you haven't noticed, the Qur'an itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 1,400 years. Why? Because simply no one other than Allah himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.


]In case you haven't noticed, the Tripitaka itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 2500years. Why? Because simply no one other than the Buddha himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.
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#87
Jul 2 2012 03:03pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 04:51pm)
Your dogmatic nonsense is not even close to a rebuttal; better luck next time.


Nothing I said was dogmatic.

Try again? Insert 1 coin.

Quote (Voyaging @ Jun 28 2012 03:34pm)
#1 -  matter of opinion, fallacious argument.

#2 - not sure who produced the fly (Allah? Muhammad?), but I don't believe it truly happened

#3 - has been done, but it is not my place to say as I have not read the entire book

#4 - God exists, therefore Islam is true? Doesn't quite follow.

#5-10 - Christianity is false, therefore Islam is true?



Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 04:53pm)
In case you haven't noticed, the Qur'an itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 1,400 years. Why? Because simply no one other than Allah himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.


You give your religion a bad name. Allah is displeased.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Jul 2 2012 03:04pm
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#88
Jul 2 2012 03:22pm
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 2 2012 02:53pm)
In case you haven't noticed, the Qur'an itself hasn't been challenged ever in over 1,400 years. Why? Because simply no one other than Allah himself can produce anything like it.

Case Closed.


Can you please explain what a challenge to the Qur'an would look like? Because I'm afraid Shakespeare, Einstein, Beethoven, and many others have produced much more beautiful and significant works.

Unless you mean hasn't been challenged for accuracy, in which case I would tell you to google the story about following the sun to where it sets and seeing it is engulfed in a giant mud puddle at night.

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Jul 3 2012 05:06am
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Can you please explain what a challenge to the Qur'an would look like?  Because I'm afraid Shakespeare, Einstein, Beethoven, and many others have produced much more beautiful and significant works.

Unless you mean hasn't been challenged for accuracy, in which case I would tell you to google the story about following the sun to where it sets and seeing it is engulfed in a giant mud puddle at night.


I will not repeat myself 3 zillion times over for you to understand. better luck next time.
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Jul 3 2012 05:49am
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jul 3 2012 05:06am)
I will not repeat myself 3 zillion times over for you to understand. better luck next time.


http://wikiislam.net/wiki/ScientificErrorsintheQuran

"And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float along in an orbit."

The oh-so-scientific Qur'an says that the sun orbits the earth.

"Allah is He who created 7 heavens one above the other like a dome, and of the Earths, the like thereof, 7 planets but they are flat"

Flat planets!

This post was edited by AEtheric on Jul 3 2012 05:57am
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