The Great Commission was to baptize " in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit " .

Acts 2 - 38 ( baptism under the name of Jesus ) was intended only for early Jewish converts .

Baptizing in the name of Jesus was to set that baptism apart from previous baptisms (John the baptist). The intent was to know who you were being baptized for and "into". We must all be baptized "into" Christ, and no other.



People were thinking being baptized in the name of someone else was ok.

I fail to see your tie from the great commission and the day of pentecost. The baptism is the same.

This post was edited by Dune1 on Mar 10 2012 11:51pm

...and again incorrect . It was an acknowledgement of their ( the Jews ) removal from a baptism under Moses and the law . Read the scholars .

I've read the scholars, and again if that's what you got from the one's you read.. you need to trash your books.

If it was to "acknowledge" their removal from the old law, why in the second half of Acts 2:38 does it say "for the forgiveness of your sins and the gift of the holy spirit"? NOWHERE in that scripture does it say that it is an acknowledgement of their "new law". In fact many Jews were still living under the traditions of the old law even after they converted to Christianity.

You also have yet to answer my question. If water baptism symbolized "acknowledgement of the new law" that you spoke of.. why were the GENTILES baptized? They weren't under the old law.


You are giving absolutely no answers. Your fall-back is "well I read it in a book somewhere". I am giving you logical (and scriptural) evidence to prove you incorrect.

This post was edited by Dune1 on Mar 10 2012 11:59pm

wat?

...you are only giving your own personal interpretation ( which you admitted to earlier ) that is at odds wth serious exegesis and you keep using the same citation incorrectly which is not Scriptural evidence of anything . Do yourself a favor and run Acts 2 -38 by your pastor later today !




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This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Mar 11 2012 12:04am

I am the pastor

Again, I have greatly out read you on the scholarly side. Please stop trying to hang that over my head. My interpretation is based on my own study as well as biblical knowledge and how one scripture relates to the other. There is no difference in the baptism the jews received, and the baptism the gentiles received. You have yet to show me the difference and keep resorting to this "I've read it somewhere" defense. I will gladly message you a vast list of respected scholars that completely differ with your interpretation.

If you have ignored the scripture references I have posted, that's the fault of yours and not mine.

Then you should listen to Widow and allow yourself a greater understanding of The Bible.

...no , you are not . You might at most be the youth pastor of some small church but you are not the leader and primary teacher and we both know it .

You're right. Will you show me the difference in the baptism the jews received in comparison to the gentiles? I would really like to understand that difference.




Widow I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else on a gaming forum. Especially in regards to a religious office in a mostly atheistic community. If you don't believe me, I could care less. lol.

But please for the sake of my own understanding.. explain to me the difference.

This post was edited by Dune1 on Mar 11 2012 12:17am