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Apr 3 2011 08:35pm
Quote (brmv @ Apr 3 2011 08:38pm)
seems you are looking into a mirror

while the owner plays a role there are inherited breed characteristics
and that you have a docile pitbull does not change that that is more of an exception
why are pitbulls banned in many countries but staffordshire terriers not?
and why are argentinian dogos banned in more countries than great danes?
there are plenty breeds with similar builds but different characteristics
dogs have been selected for their characteristics for millennia and a dog generation is only ~3 years
and with the advent of "pure breed" standards in the 18th century there has been an even higher emphasise on those

there are plenty dog breeds which are more powerful than pitbulls which are banned nowhere

that being said, i do agree with your the second bolded
and that is scary when it comes to dangerous or other "volatile" breeds
so far never met an irresponsible owner of siberian huskies
but plenty other "strong dog" owners where the owner feels strong because he has a strong dog
everyone who does not inform him- (or her-) self about breed characteristics when obtaining a dog is silly
and anyone who considers a pitbull as just as much as a family suited dog as a golden retriever
reminds me of someone running a dairy farm with angus cattle


stop trying to draw out the fact that you think cause a dog looks mean it is mean.
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Apr 3 2011 08:42pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Apr 3 2011 07:35pm)
stop trying to draw out the fact that you think cause a dog looks mean it is mean.


To brmv based on your assumption: The biggest shark is called the Whale Shark and it filter feeds on plankton and krill among other things and is completely harmless to humans. Don't judge a book by it's cover :).
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Apr 3 2011 08:52pm
Quote (Psycho- @ 4 Apr 2011 02:35)
stop trying to draw out the fact that you think cause a dog looks mean it is mean.


has nothing to do with looks but with selective breeding
you are seemingly trying to draw out the fact that you have limited experience with dogs
staffordshires (and some other bull terriers) look just as (if not even more) vicious than pitbulls but have a different disposition
why did people with relabelling the american pitbull as american staffordshire terrier try to make it look to be another breed?
go to a responsible breeder of any breed and they will tell you about the characteristics
there is a spectrum of behaviour in any breed but the balance of the disposition is well known
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Apr 3 2011 09:18pm
Quote (GTL @ Apr 3 2011 07:05pm)
It sucks that you had a shitty experience with a dog, they are amazing.

OP doesn't address the idea that the dog is the owner's "child" or at least he sees it in that sense. You brandished a bat at his de facto child... you'd be swearing too, regardless of it's seemingly hostile behavior.





I'd  have you on the ground with both arms broken long before you ever touched my dog bro. In general, the kind of people that take their dogs out to parks on leashes are as protective of their dogs as they would be children.


Wow, for a semi-beer fueled Saturday night rant this thread really had some life. Just to clarify, I love dogs. I just don't like other people's dogs when they run up at me and my family. I don't care how great your dog is. I don't know it, so I assume the worst. I'd rather accidentally smack some well-meaning dog in the head with a bat than mistakenly allow an aggressive dog to bite my kid because I didn't think it was that big a deal. Unfortunately, though, you are plenty right about misguided affection for dogs. I happen to live in the dog rights capital of the world. In our local community, you can't even own a dog. Officially--and I'm not making this up--people are dog guardians.
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Apr 3 2011 09:22pm
dude... if that dog crowlded at my kid, and was getting near i woulda hit it with that bat no if's and or buts, thats a fucking pit bull, that aint on chiwawa

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i didn't see you caring enough to mention the race of the people involved so why inform on the breed of the dog unless you wanted to make it sound more dangerous based on preconceived notions of a pitbull. if it was a golden retriever i feel strong you would of left the breed out because no one considers them a dangerous breed. hell my hound growls when we play cause thats just how dogs act. were the kids with the dog owners around the same age as yours? perhaps he plays with them in that manner? you took it as a hostile action when by all rights if the dog was hostile he would of done something not stood there in an otherwise defensive posture. does a dog charging in and then stopping and acting defensive for no reason sound right to you?

you were right to take precaution but you failed to read the situation after the initial "attack".


ha who the fuck are you? dog whisperer? how did you know that dog wouldnt have starting attacking, i think the breed was relevant, because if it was a little Chiwawa i dont think we would have been as worried, but since pitbulls are known for being really fucking tough i think it should be known that they should be watched around kids. it doesnt matter if the owner had kids the same age, i know people with DIFFERENT types of dogs and although im the same age as my buddies there dog would tear my head off but leave them perfectly alone.
tbh i dont care what that dogs motives might seem like, growling isnt a friendly attribute most dogs carry, if it were waging its tale and not barking i wouldnt be as worried but growling foreal?

This post was edited by P_Pepa on Apr 3 2011 09:28pm
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Apr 3 2011 09:24pm
Quote (JEB90 @ Apr 3 2011 10:18pm)
Wow, for a semi-beer fueled Saturday night rant this thread really had some life.  Just to clarify, I love dogs.  I just don't like other people's dogs when they run up at me and my family.  I don't care how great your dog is.  I don't know it, so I assume the worst.  I'd rather accidentally smack some well-meaning dog in the head with a bat than mistakenly allow an aggressive dog to bite my kid because I didn't think it was that big a deal.  Unfortunately, though, you are plenty right about misguided affection for dogs.  I happen to live in the dog rights capital of the world.  In our local community, you can't even own a dog.  Officially--and I'm not making this up--people are dog guardians.


:rofl: Do you live in Canada? That sounds like a very Canadian thing to do. (Plus, the Labrador came from there! :) Which doesn't really prove anything, but my doggie's a lab, so yeah.)
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Apr 3 2011 09:46pm
Quote (GTL @ Apr 4 2011 02:05am)
It sucks that you had a shitty experience with a dog, they are amazing.

OP doesn't address the idea that the dog is the owner's "child" or at least he sees it in that sense. You brandished a bat at his de facto child... you'd be swearing too, regardless of it's seemingly hostile behavior.





I'd  have you on the ground with both arms broken long before you ever touched my dog bro. In general, the kind of people that take their dogs out to parks on leashes are as protective of their dogs as they would be children.


exactly if my kid ran up to another kid and started talking shit, its my responsibility to stop my child...
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Apr 3 2011 10:08pm
Quote (P_Pepa @ Apr 3 2011 10:22pm)
dude... if that dog crowlded at my kid, and was getting near i woulda hit it with that bat no if's and or buts, thats a fucking pit bull, that aint on chiwawa



ha who the fuck are you? dog whisperer? how did you know that dog wouldnt have starting attacking, i think the breed was relevant, because if it was a little Chiwawa i dont think we would have been as worried, but since pitbulls are known for being really fucking tough i think it should be known that they should be watched around kids. it doesnt matter if the owner had kids the same age, i know people with DIFFERENT types of dogs and although im the same age as my buddies there dog would tear my head off but leave them perfectly alone.
tbh i dont care what that dogs motives might seem like, growling isnt a friendly attribute most dogs carry, if it were waging its tale and not barking i wouldnt be as worried but growling foreal?


in play growling is perfectly normal for dogs. and no i don't need some mystic power to know that if a dog is gonna run in and attack its not gonna stop and growl when it gets 5 ft away. at best the dog was being defensive and had no intention of making the first move. dogs are some mystery we know plenty about their behavior.

he was right to take a defensive posture and not act aggressive towards it because then it would of been his fault if something happened not the dogs.
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Apr 3 2011 10:09pm
Quote (catkaboodle @ Apr 3 2011 08:24pm)
:rofl: Do you live in Canada? That sounds like a very Canadian thing to do. (Plus, the Labrador came from there! :) Which doesn't really prove anything, but my doggie's a lab, so yeah.)


Colorado...see what legalized medicinal pot will do to the brain?
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Apr 3 2011 10:13pm
good choice, fuck a dog that's replaceable, you're kids aren't.
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