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Mar 17 2011 11:01am
Quote (IceMage @ 17 Mar 2011 10:55)
One thing I will never understand is the willingness to kill your own child.


Like that mother in Fahrenheit 9-11, who convinces her son to go off to kill people in the name of america, even though he didn't want to, then he gets killed.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 17 2011 11:59am)
suppose it has a genetic disorder and its life will ONLY be suffering


Even if someone were to admit the existence of some line where abortion might theoretically be morally acceptable, such a line is nowhere near this situation. I mean honestly why does this have to come up in every discussion?
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Mar 17 2011 11:09am
Quote (RITZ @ Mar 17 2011 12:01pm)
Like that mother in Fahrenheit 9-11, who convinces her son to go off to kill people in the name of america, even though he didn't want to, then he gets killed.


Yeah, pretty terrible stuff.
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Mar 17 2011 11:33am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 17 2011 02:20pm)
Life is either sacred or it's not. Murder is either okay or it's not.
The people who are pro-life are rarely actually pro-life, they're pro-birth. They're usually the kind of people who are against taxes being used to create a decent living standards for all citizens.
The leaders that are pro-choice do much more to stop abortions from happening than their pro-life counterparts. And they didn't do it by shooting Dr. Tiller while he was in church.

Me? I think that killing sucks. But it's the way of the world...life isn't sacred, just resilient.

I was on a tank crew in the army, did two deployments. How could I still possibly believe life is sacred?
It's just not. Fuck, every time I eat a chicken nugget I'm tasting the meat of 5,000 chickens.


I've never said that "life is sacred" in some sort of way that precludes ever ending it, but I don't see the parallel between an innocent life being ended and that of a traitorous criminal.
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Mar 17 2011 11:41am
Quote (darkfire @ Mar 17 2011 11:01am)
Even if someone were to admit the existence of some line where abortion might theoretically be morally acceptable, such a line is nowhere near this situation.  I mean honestly why does this have to come up in every discussion?


to better understand the logic behind the other guy and potentially reveal inconsistencies
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Mar 17 2011 11:55am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 17 2011 04:59pm)
suppose it has a genetic disorder and its life will ONLY be suffering.

Also I don't think something can be called human without a brain, heart, or even the capacity to feel pain.


A difficult decision which merits additional review, but it isn't relevant to cases in which the above isn't the case.
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Mar 17 2011 01:38pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 17 2011 12:55pm)
A difficult decision which merits additional review, but it isn't relevant to cases in which the above isn't the case.


I dunno bogie, if you were stuck making a decision, you'd probably "merit additional review" until someone else did something about it.
She should get an abortion, imo.

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Mar 17 2011 02:03pm
I don't understand why people are ignoring the option to adopt. Is there something dumb about that idea? :?
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Mar 17 2011 02:41pm
Quote (catkaboodle @ Mar 17 2011 03:03pm)
I don't understand why people are ignoring the option to adopt. Is there something dumb about that idea? :?


That's a pretty good idea too. I don't think this will work so well in this situation though, since he's apparently taking responsibility for something that may be the result of one of the other (three?) dudes she's currently seeing. Adopting out works when it's a monogamous relationship and there's some agreed boundaries (i.e, no marriage talk for X years, no kids).
My only issue with it is that I've seen what can happen after nine months, especially with party girls who do a lot of drugs and have multiple sexual partners. At my high school, no fewer than three sets of f***buddies ended up in relationships after a pregnancy. Here's a sample of comments I've found to be typical--

-I've given it some thought, and I feel I should keep the baby
-Even if you're not the father, I feel you should support me.
-Any real man would support a baby that wasn't his
-You're taking a paternity test.
-I don't want my baby to be adopted out
-I can't support the little one alone
-Hey, can you spot me twenty bucks so I can buy smokes and Karkov? I feel the baby wouldn't mind

This post was edited by general_patton on Mar 17 2011 02:44pm
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Mar 17 2011 03:00pm
Quote (general_patton @ Mar 17 2011 07:38pm)
I dunno bogie, if you were stuck making a decision, you'd probably "merit additional review" until someone else did something about it.
She should get an abortion, imo.


If the case is hopeless then euthanasia might be justified, it's just that it happens in an exceedingly small number of cases, almost to the point of irrelevance.
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