no shortage of this that's for sure.

Your post that I specifically quoted said that you believed that one doesn't have to claim one is Christian, and through that claim immerse oneself in critical thought about the faith, to be a true Christian. It's not semantics, it's a complete difference in meaning that cannot be attributed to using different words that mean similar things.

How so?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43302634&f=186&o=2150#p344903296

In that thread he thinks I was whining while I posting on this subject of right and wrong, haha, also stalks me. Ohh gosh they make me laugh?

Also, AE and Zeratul, you both are cool, but you have different views. Just stop the flooding of this poor guys thread, lol.

you don't read do you?

i've just about gave up on you

on post 25 i wrote: agnostic is nothing more than a transitional phase.we are all born with an innate predisposition towards belief in a higher power

on post 42 i wrote again: no. i've already asserted to the fact that we have an innate predisposition towards belief in a higher power. primordial belief vs learned behavior.

then on post 60 you wrote: But claiming to be a Christian (when you are not) does not make you a Christian. Just saying.

hence the reason i made the transition from general higher power discussion to specifically speaking on christianity.

i'm done with you man. you don't read or just don't comprehend what you read or are just a troll.

there's is no way i could put it any more simply i don't know what to tell you.

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Jan 22 2011 07:50pm

Your argument for why death is bad was that animals fear death.

Yes, but it wasn't because fearing death was natural was why I said that killing animals is bad. I said that because animals themselves fear death killing them is wrong. It is natural for animals to fear death, but it isn't what my argument centered around, which is what the fallacy is about.

Killing animals is an opinion, like the argument both of you are having.............

Alright, this thread has gone a bit too off topic for me. Thnx for posting everyone, it helped a bit.

SooWoop OUT

utterly wrong, while atheism or agnosticism can be transitional phases
true agnosticism implies the acceptance that you cannot decide based on the current state of knowledge AND that the state of knowledge necessary to decide the question is unlikely to be reached



can one assume that you did a comprehensive study of the world population and did find that there is no single person and ever has been which did not believe in a higher power? if not i would have to challenge your academic credentials
ever heard of kaspar hauser?
btw, atheism is often (no, not always - my academic background does not allow me to make such a claim) a phase of transition
because atheism as a counter belief against establish belief is quite common
and while i was in my high teens/low twenties there were plenty people in my age group which were religiously atheistic
(i allow you to work out what that means)