Countries are pieces of land that people live in... they are not prisons, and the people who are there aren't morally responsible because the situation is bad.

It's like America. I'm not morally responsible because the country I live in re-elected a dumbass reality-show host who is a criminal.

this double standard is interesting.

You want the things you deem positive, but reject the things you deem negative.

e- so when things become too negative in your eyes, you will flee to somewhere else?
Instead of actively trying to make things more positive.

didn't britney and ellen flee for this reason?
HMMMM

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 14 2024 05:40pm

Yeah you are morally responsible.

NOT that Trump got elected... but responsible for those you backed who broke untold number of laws, trying to prevent his winning or oust Trump after the fact.



Sorry if this list is incomplete... I'm getting old and just had major surgery...




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems waste tax payers money on Trump's taxes investigation.



But yeah, Trump is the bad guy for saying: "Let's go to Washington".

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 14 2024 05:42pm

If I was in Mexico and was in a crime and poverty ridden area, and with a family, I would seriously consider coming to America.

People who stay there and try to change the system are great. They are doing heroic stuff. But normal people who choose to come to America out of their self-interest or familial-self-interest are doing what any one of us would do in the same situation.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 14 2024 05:43pm

Why not... Brazil?

Q: Why is America the ONLY other country, the down-trodden see or think about?

A: Because there are bunches of ijeet liberals here.



And again... if they do it LEGALLY... then fine. ^^

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 14 2024 05:47pm

please humor me...
What happens when all the tired, poor and huddled 'masses' flee to America.

What do we do when the entire country is tired, poor and huddled 'masses'?

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'masses' is a code word for animals by the way.

edit: btw I'm not trying to attack IceMage, I get the feeling like he's being ganged up on.
I'll take my leave, I know my opinion here is very unpopular and in many ways doesn't actually reflect my real life views.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 14 2024 05:51pm

He called revoking temporary protected status "ethnic cleansing".

It's not insightful at all, it just says what you already believed.

I think the liberal "sure everyone can come",proponents, should put their money where their mouth is.

They should finance agents (missionaries), to go to these down trodden countries and HELP these folk emigrate.... LEGALLY.
And not dump that responsibility on every tax payer in the US. ^^

This post was edited by Ghot on Dec 14 2024 05:53pm

Referring to immigrants as animals is one of those blatant signifiers that you are a racist. And clearly your anti-immigrant sentiment is motivated by that.



In that article? Where at?

The article is a beautiful piece of writing and I've referenced it several times.

They want white people things without doing white people work

They could build a prosperous society like we did, but they're too lazy and uninterested. They'd rather just leech off of us

They're the lowest form of humanity, Nietzchean Untermenschen by every definition