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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 19 2024 09:14am)
Since most the other people are just trolling Christianity I decided to share some of the Bhagavad Gita to draw some comparisons amongst my fellow Christians.

In the Gita it is a conversation between Arjuna and Krishna who are first cousins. They are about to fight in a war over a land dispute in India. Both are contradicted by the fact that they have family and friends on BOTH sides of the conflict.

Krishna(who is actually the 7th incarnation of Vishnu(One of the 3 gods of their trinity) is essentially doing the following:

Reminding him of his duty as a warrior, advice on work, and instructions on how to live:

Duty as a warrior: "If you will not fight this righteous war, then you will fail in your duty, lose your reputation, and incur sin".

Work: "You have the right to work, but never to the fruit of work".

Selflessness:"Perform work in this world, Arjuna, as a man established within himself - without selfish attachments, and alike in success and defeat".

Action: "Nobody can remain without action, even for a moment".

Self-control: "Do everything you have to do, but not with greed, not with ego, not with lust, not with envy but with love, compassion, humility and devotion".

Self-knowledge: "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. We are made of our thoughts; we are molded by our thoughts".

Self-destructive impulses: "There are three gates leading to the hell of self-destruction for the soul—lust, anger, and greed".

This reminds me a lot of the moral questions you see in the story of "Cain and Abel" in Genesis as well as the "guidelines" you find in the 10 commandments.

I liken the relationship of Krishna to Arjuna as Jesus was to his disciples. Sharing with them the word that IS God. Jesus being God's one and only son and Arjuna being the "ONE" who is given direction by Krishna(one of Vishnu's incarnations(god)).

To show how easy it is to confuse sculpture sometimes in any religion it clouds the "true path". One of the more known quotes that was specifically quoted by J. Robert Oppenheimer(scientist who created the first nuclear bomb) quoted the Gita after witnessing the first "nuclear bomb test" saying just as Krishna said, "Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds". The thing about the quote is people thought/think that when he said "Death" he was talking about "physical death", he was actually talking about the "MIND" because it is the "MIND" that inevitably leads to destruction and chaos. It's why Oppenheimer quoted it because through his mind(intellect/ego) he created something that would inevitably cause people great harm and physical death.

I know this is a tldr but I wanted to show the comparisons because the "Gita" is the Hindus "Bible". The Gita is also written around 400 BCE which is the "closest" to the time frame that the Abrahamic faiths became the focal point of religion.

The Vedas are the oldest scriptural texts and date back to 1200 BCE and some of the most profound philosophical texts are found there(Upanishads). The Vedas are so far advanced for their time that they "changed my life". They forced me as a Catholic to ACCEPT that "peoples" who lived 1200 years before Christ were able to articulate things that we didn't discover or come purvey too until much later(1600's onward). If you look at a lot of "modern inventions" you will find an ancient Sanskrit text talking about it or explaining it in full detail 2,500 years before people like Sir Isacc Newton, Galileo, and other staple names "discovered it".

That is why I will say that the Bible and the Vedas are the closest to being the word of God because of how much depth and intelligence it took to form these scriptures. I will always say the Bible is closer to the word of God not because I'm a Catholic but because people really do "believe it with every fiber in their soul". Myself included. I just have a profound respect and admiration for the Vedas because from a philosophical perspective they allowed me to better understand "Christ" becaue of the sheer logic/intellect present there.

I apologize for quoting any Biblical scripture out of context it's just that for the last several years I've only been studying/reading Eastern texts/scripture and a few weeks ago I realized I had to re-read the Bible again because every time I read it I discover deeper meaning. I appreciate you guys for telling me to read the Gospel again just needed that extra push. God Bless and Namaste!


Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31:“ So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
if i could find the article on this topic i would post it. basically the article would post the "golden rule" from other religions. they would all basically say dont increase the suffering of others. but the bible scripture tells us to do something about the suffering of others. have you ever seen any other religion that gets involved with charity more than christianity?

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re-read the Bible again because every time I read it I discover deeper meaning.

christians always talk about that. :)


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Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31:“ So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
if i could find the article on this topic i would post it. basically the article would post the "golden rule" from other religions. they would all basically say dont increase the suffering of others. but the bible scripture tells us to do something about the suffering of others. have you ever seen any other religion that gets involved with charity more than christianity?


christians always talk about that. :)


Basically none do as much as Christians and the same is true of Hindus who practice Hinduism(the old religion). They are unbelievably kind and I've met NONE that wouldn't do ANYTHING for me or a total stranger. That says a lot about their scripture.

When I went to that Hindu temple for the first time just to see what it was all about NO ONE pushed ideology on me at all. The fact that I immediately offered to volunteer to help with landscaping their property, mop the floors, clean the bathrooms, and other things with no expectation of anything in return really probably made them think. "God is enough". Because I had already achieved financial independence at a young age and I was willing to do the "dirty work" because they were helping me strengthen my bond with Jesus Christ through "Karma Yoga" which is "work/action" they knew that I didn't need any more "religion" I was already a good person trying to be better everyday. I already gave my life to Jesus Christ and so how ignorant would their philosophy have been to say, "Drop Jesus add Kali" or "denounce your Catholic upbringing" and read the "Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna". None of that. Vedanta is a philosophy. I've met Christian Vedantist, Muslim Vedantist, Hindu Vedantist, Buddhist Vedantist, etc. etc.

Vedanta literally means the "end of the Vedas" or end of their scripture comparative to Revelation only to the extent that it is the "conclusion" of the scripture. What it subtly is saying is that you could read all the scripture and still be a bad person so it tells you essentially "put down the good book and ACT". Do as Jesus did. ACT as Jesus did. Speak with a FIRE like Jesus did. Fear not death for your eternal bond with Christ can never be broken.

Swami Vivekananda was the KING at telling Buddhist and Atheist and highly intelligent non-religious people things like...

To a Buddhist, "Oh wow you achieved enlightenment GREAT! How does that help anyone else though? Great you're in total bliss! Everyone around you is suffering though??

To an Atheist, "I was an atheist too until I studied all that is GOD and found him in every being, every thing, everywhere at all times". "So there's no God?" GREAT! "What are you doing to help anyone?"

Swami Vivekananda basically was all ACTION and what he did during the course of his life changed all of our lives and yet none know his name. Ironic isn't it? He takes none of the "great accomplishments" he single handedly is responsible for. Why? Because "God is enough". Here are some things Vivekananda said about Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ was God — the Personal God become man. He has manifested Himself many times in different forms and these alone are what you can worship. God in His absolute nature is not to be worshipped. Worshipping such God would be nonsense. We have to worship Jesus Christ, the human manifestation, as God. You cannot worship anything higher than the manifestation of God. The sooner you give up the worship of God separate from Christ, the better for you.”

If I, as an Oriental have to worship Jesus of Nazareth, there is only one way, that is, to worship him as God and nothing else.

It is my particular fancy that the same Buddha became Christ. Buddha prophesied, “I will come again in five hundred years”, and Christ came here in five hundred years. These are the two Lights of the whole human nature. Two men have been produced, Buddha and Christ; these are the two giants, huge gigantic personalities, two Gods. Between them they divide the whole world. Wherever there is the least knowledge in the world, people bow down either to Buddha or Christ. It would be very hard to produce more like them, but I hope there will be. Mohammed came five hundred years after, five hundred years after came Luther with his Protestant wave, and this is five hundred years after that again. It is a great thing in a few thousand years to produce two such men as Jesus and Buddha. Are not two such enough? Christ and Buddha were Gods, the others were prophets. Study the life of these two and see the manifestation of power in them — calm and non – resisting, poor beggars owning nothing, without a cent in their pockets, despised all their lives, called heretic and fool — and think of the immense spiritual power they have wielded over humanity.

Christ was God incarnate; they could not kill him. That which was crucified was only a semblance, a mirage.

Father is the existence out of which everything comes; Son is that knowledge. It is in Christ that God will be manifest. God was everywhere, in all beings, before Christ; but in Christ we became conscious of Him. This is God. The third is bliss, the Holy Spirit.

I pity the Hindu who does not see the beauty in Jesus Christ’s character. I pity the Christian who does not reverence the Hindu Christ.

Let the churches preach doctrines, theories, philosophies to their hearts’ content, but when it comes to worship, the real practical part of religion, it should be as Jesus says, “When thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret”

Nothing is gained except by sacrifice…. The holiest function of our human consciousness, the noblest, do not make it unclean! Do not degrade it to the level of the brutes…. Make yourselves decent men! … Be chaste and pure! … There is no other way. Did Christ find any other way? … If you can conserve and use the energy properly, it leads you to God. Inverted, it is hell itself ….

Remember the words of Christ: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” These words are literally true, not figures or fiction. They were the outflow of the heart’s blood of one of the greatest sons of God who have ever come to this world of ours; words which came as the fruit of realisation, from a man who had felt and realised God himself; who had spoken with God, lived with God, a hundred times more intensely than you or I see this building.
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