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Oct 16 2024 09:40am
Quote (ScionCapital @ 15 Oct 2024 18:06)
I'm saying if you're god, and you designed the human body and decided it was perfect. You are most definitely a flawed being.


Quote (ScionCapital @ 15 Oct 2024 20:55)
Sorry buddy, i appreciate your interest in this matter. But I cannot accept the world you that you purport to be true. I really wish I could. I would much prefer a paradise in the clouds, but my mind does not work off that preference.


It's funny to me your entire perceptual awareness of what people around the world call "God/god" is just the "Abrahamic version" it's why your entire list consists of almost exclusively "Abrahamic faiths".

When an atheist gives the whole spiel of "God doesn't exist" or that there's not a "paradise in the clouds" he is not negating anything more then the FACT that a "physical God is not in the clouds(heaven) judging the deeds of all beings. Common logic tells you there isn't physically a dude up there and no being is coming back from the dead(Jesus or other) at least not physically he was clearly talking about the "soul" or what people call the "essence of existence".

The definition of God varies drastically across all religions and philosophies you only speaking on the "Patriarchal masculine God of the bible" shows your ignorance on the subject.

The whole reason I studied the East was because I thought all the "fairy tale stories" were bullshit i.e not based in reality and I wanted to see how other "religions" worked/functioned and what was their "god".

Buddhism developed 600 years before Christ lived. Hinduism a few THOUSAND before Christ(arguably the oldest and "mother of all religions"). Religion didn't start when Jesus died on the cross. It was very much alive and well for thousands of years prior to his death. The only reason you and everyone else in this thread exclusively talks about the "Abrahamic faiths" because they were the religion who conquered peoples and forced them to believe in their God. The Hindus and Buddhist "NEVER" thought to "spread their ideology" through violence.

This is where those ideologies just dominate the Abrahamic faiths. If you read anything related to Hinduism/Buddhism and other Eastern philosophies they stand alone very far away and with much more "logical/scientific" approaches to "understanding existenc itself". For every question a human being may have the Buddhist/Hindus gave 100 different potential answers that fit for different people. The Abrahamic faiths foolishly tell everyone that "their way is the only way.

Only through Christ. Only through Allah. Only through Yahweh. Only through Jehova. That is the root of their ignorance. Saying they have exclusive ownership of the "truth" because their "idol" is the "idol of idols". Every Buddhist/Hindu will sort of laugh at that aspect.

They(Hindus/Buddhist) spent hundreds of years/thousand giving the most in-depth "answer" to that question "What is religion" "Who is God" "What is God" "What is our purpose" "Why/When/How/What/etc. yet the Abrahamic faiths said "fuck you wealth of knowledge that makes our books look retarded" &&& so they murdered/killed all non-believers and attempted to convert everyone else.

The most intolerant body of religions is the Abrahamic religious body as their stories are all intertwined. Some would say Islam the most intolerant of them. I'd agree.

What's funny to me is I was raised Catholic but when I studied Hinduism/Buddhism/etc. I immediately saw the "gaping holes" in my own religion. Having more atheistic/agnostic tendencies going into it I decided to go "all the way" and study until I couldn't. I actually wanted to see/feel/experience God because up until that point in my life I didn't get it. After 10 years of studying basically bits and parts of many different ideologies I realized they were all just different stories explaining the human experience in different symbols/metaphors/stories.etc.

I typed this out to help you understand that you can be born into a religion(Catholic) question it(Atheism/Agnosticism) look for answers in the only other places(Eastern religion/philosophy) and then come to different conclusions about the same questions.

You asked the wrong question so I gave you the RIGHT answer.
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Oct 16 2024 09:43am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 16 2024 10:40am)
It's funny to me your entire perceptual awareness of what people around the world call "God/god" is just the "Abrahamic version" it's why your entire list consists of almost exclusively "Abrahamic faiths".

When an atheist gives the whole spiel of "God doesn't exist" or that there's not a "paradise in the clouds" he is not negating anything more then the FACT that a "physical God is not in the clouds(heaven) judging the deeds of all beings. Common logic tells you there isn't physically a dude up there and no being is coming back from the dead(Jesus or other) at least not physically he was clearly talking about the "soul" or what people call the "essence of existence".

The definition of God varies drastically across all religions and philosophies you only speaking on the "Patriarchal masculine God of the bible" shows your ignorance on the subject.

The whole reason I studied the East was because I thought all the "fairy tale stories" were bullshit i.e not based in reality and I wanted to see how other "religions" worked/functioned and what was their "god".

Buddhism developed 600 years before Christ lived. Hinduism a few THOUSAND before Christ(arguably the oldest and "mother of all religions"). Religion didn't start when Jesus died on the cross. It was very much alive and well for thousands of years prior to his death. The only reason you and everyone else in this thread exclusively talks about the "Abrahamic faiths" because they were the religion who conquered peoples and forced them to believe in their God. The Hindus and Buddhist "NEVER" thought to "spread their ideology" through violence.

This is where those ideologies just dominate the Abrahamic faiths. If you read anything related to Hinduism/Buddhism and other Eastern philosophies they stand alone very far away and with much more "logical/scientific" approaches to "understanding existenc itself". For every question a human being may have the Buddhist/Hindus gave 100 different potential answers that fit for different people. The Abrahamic faiths foolishly tell everyone that "their way is the only way.

Only through Christ. Only through Allah. Only through Yahweh. Only through Jehova. That is the root of their ignorance. Saying they have exclusive ownership of the "truth" because their "idol" is the "idol of idols". Every Buddhist/Hindu will sort of laugh at that aspect.

They(Hindus/Buddhist) spent hundreds of years/thousand giving the most in-depth "answer" to that question "What is religion" "Who is God" "What is God" "What is our purpose" "Why/When/How/What/etc. yet the Abrahamic faiths said "fuck you wealth of knowledge that makes our books look retarded" &&& so they murdered/killed all non-believers and attempted to convert everyone else.

The most intolerant body of religions is the Abrahamic religious body as their stories are all intertwined. Some would say Islam the most intolerant of them. I'd agree.

What's funny to me is I was raised Catholic but when I studied Hinduism/Buddhism/etc. I immediately saw the "gaping holes" in my own religion. Having more atheistic/agnostic tendencies going into it I decided to go "all the way" and study until I couldn't. I actually wanted to see/feel/experience God because up until that point in my life I didn't get it. After 10 years of studying basically bits and parts of many different ideologies I realized they were all just different stories explaining the human experience in different symbols/metaphors/stories.etc.

I typed this out to help you understand that you can be born into a religion(Catholic) question it(Atheism/Agnosticism) look for answers in the only other places(Eastern religion/philosophy) and then come to different conclusions about the same questions.

You asked the wrong question so I gave you the RIGHT answer.


It consists mainly of abrahamic faiths because that's what eighty percent of the world believes.
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Oct 16 2024 10:59am
Quote (ScionCapital @ 16 Oct 2024 10:43)
It consists mainly of abrahamic faiths because that's what eighty percent of the world believes.


I can guarantee you that most if not all the people who voted "Atheist" never studied "religion" ever so they aren't religious at all. Like many mentioned "Atheism isn't a religion" it's an abstract concept. They simply take the cowards/lazy mans way out. Instead of researching extensively to prove "atheism" as a concept they use it as a deflection mechanism to avoid the hard research that someone like myself and many others who really wanted the "truth" sought.

So maybe some of you atheist can tell me how you came to being an atheist(laziness?). Let me guess you were bombarded your whole life with the "Abrahamic god" "floating in the sky" in a "heavenly palace in the clouds". How much of a retard does that make you to go out calling them idiots believing that nonsense when you actually take time/effort to refute something so silly?

I also think atheist are retards when they make the whole the universe isn't intelligent and humans developed at random approach. There's a reason 90% of people have agnostic tendencies and believe in the Abrahamic faith. What makes more logical sense? Creative all powerful God makes the universe as he sees fit or there was a "big bang" billions of years ago that "set the universe in motion". Either way the atheist always has to prove "God doesn't exist" and it's extremely difficult because when questioned about what existed "prior to the big bang" they are almost forced to admit "God" because "something out of nothing" isn't supported by modern scientific theory. That's why Hindus call "God" the strata aka "what existence is ON". What's there at the beginning of the universe? Substance. Something. Unexplainable but observable. The further we look out at the universe the more questions come. The further we look downward through the microscope the more questions come? What are you actually looking at? God. Who are you? God experiencing itself through the human experience.

Yes "God" / "religion" are a result of the human mind and the mind alone. You can only discuss these things through language/symbolism. When Buddha said "god didn't exist" he didn't negate anything he just found it silly people believed in all these imaginary gods who aren't visible and don't ACT. You alone ACT. Some say God alone ACTS and we are merely it's instruments.

All that being said I agree you cannot have a conversation about religion/god without the "Abrahamic faiths" because they do make up a majority of the world population. But their "truth" isn't like I said the "only truth" they just used violence/expansionist/missionary efforts to make the "Abrahamic God" the whole worlds "God".

I could've voted for "all the above" in this poll if you had made it available. Then what I'm saying would make more sense. I explain myself because my beliefs are contrary to most religious ideologs. I'm not calling you a "fool" I'm calling the question, "What is your religion" silly. That's all.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 16 2024 11:03am
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Oct 18 2024 12:45am
I am not part of any religion, you forgot to create a button for me. Also catholics are christians as well. Makes no sense to seperate those.

This post was edited by Saurod on Oct 18 2024 12:45am
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Oct 18 2024 01:07am
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I am not part of any religion, you forgot to create a button for me. Also catholics are christians as well. Makes no sense to seperate those.


Not exactly true they have different beliefs on how one is saved. Catholics believe you must have good works, baptists do not believe you need that.
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Oct 18 2024 01:11am
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 18 2024 09:07am)
Not exactly true they have different beliefs on how one is saved. Catholics believe you must have good works, baptists do not believe you need that.


Still Christians, so it is exactly true. Baptists arent any more or less christian than catholics or evangelists.
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Oct 18 2024 01:17am
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Still Christians, so it is exactly true. Baptists arent any more or less christian than catholics or evangelists.


That's your opinion sir, ive grown up around catholics all my life and they absolutely refuse to use any holy book other than the bible approved by the Vatican
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Oct 18 2024 03:23am
Quote (ScionCapital @ 18 Oct 2024 09:07)
Not exactly true they have different beliefs on how one is saved. Catholics believe you must have good works, baptists do not believe you need that.


then do the same for muslims : there's Chiites and Sunites (Shiites and Sunnis in english).

So who are the "real" muslims ?

Quote (ScionCapital @ 18 Oct 2024 09:17)
That's your opinion sir, ive grown up around catholics all my life and they absolutely refuse to use any holy book other than the bible approved by the Vatican


nobody care about your opinion or even my opinion. There's no opinions about this, we aren't talking about politics or things like that. It is commonly accepted that they are all Christians.

You're looking mad about catholics tho. A catholic can tell you that protestantism appeared 1500 years after JC so they aren't original Christians, what are going to respond to that ? Time and history don't count in your opinion and point of view about the subject ?
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Quote (Red_Vex @ Oct 18 2024 04:23am)
then do the same for muslims : there's Chiites and Sunites (Shiites and Sunnis in english).

So who are the "real" muslims ?



nobody care about your opinion or even my opinion. There's no opinions about this, we aren't talking about politics or things like that. It is commonly accepted that they are all Christians.

You're looking mad about catholics tho. A catholic can tell you that protestantism appeared 1500 years after JC so they aren't original Christians, what are going to respond to that ? Time and history don't count in your opinion and point of view about the subject ?


I'm not interested in having discussion right now, 😒 so go discuss whatever you want with other people. If you don't like the poll. Don't vote. Either way I don't really give fuck

This post was edited by ScionCapital on Oct 18 2024 03:25am
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Oct 18 2024 03:28am
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 18 2024 09:17am)
That's your opinion sir, ive grown up around catholics all my life and they absolutely refuse to use any holy book other than the bible approved by the Vatican


So? Still christians.
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