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Jul 4 2024 09:42am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 4 2024 11:29am)
You're right, I was looking at this article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-25/israel-may-increase-defense-spending-by-8-billion-next-year

But these figures refer to Israel's overall budget, not just their military spending. $150bn in military spending per year would be ludicrous for a country of less than 10m, I should have realized that immediately. My bad!

Still: against their actual 2023 defense budget of $27.5bn, the $3.8bn in US aid are still just a small-ish contribution. The true reason US aid is crucial for Israel is not its financial volume, but the technology they're receiving. US aid helps them retain technological supremacy over their neighbors. And during times of war, like right now, the US presumably also helps them with critical ammunition supplies which Israel would have a hard time producing themselves. Say interceptors for their Iron Dome and such.



Also note that most of this military aid are just indirect subsidies from the US government for the US defense industry anyway, with Israel just acting as the intermediary:
https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts



All good. I was under the impression that the US contributed a larger part of their defense budget. It’s not my fight anyway since I’m not American, but I’m mostly wondering if they get their money’s worth.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 4 2024 11:25am)
I will not quit anything you want because you chose to ignore what i posted in this topic:



So this is what i was trying to explain: Don't claim Israel and those who helped it did "good" in area. We cant push for such ridiculous assements.



What are you talking about? I’m not telling you to quit anything and I’m not talking to you about Israel. I’m challenging your claim that women had to wear a veil here until the 1930s.
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Jul 4 2024 09:50am
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Jul 4 2024 05:42pm)
What are you talking about? I’m not telling you to quit anything and I’m not talking to you about Israel. I’m challenging your claim that women had to wear a veil here until the 1930s.


Sounds like a very, very, obtuse "challenge"... It was clearly a pressure from the whole society and also, partially, from religion.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 4 2024 11:50am)
Sounds like a very, very, obtuse "challenge"... It was clearly a pressure from the whole society and also, partially, from religion.



That’s a funny way of saying you can’t back your claim. This is getting boring though, feel free to continue alone.
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Jul 4 2024 10:17am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Jul 4 2024 05:23am)
Why do you suggest USA is not first ?

This topic kinda creeps me out lol


Israel via proxy through AIPAC and other foundations have bought our foreign policy in the middle east from our elected officials, this is un-American & needs to end as soon as possible.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 4 2024 11:12am)
Jews around the world are endangered by antisemites who hate them anyway and are just looking for an excuse or rationalization for their hatred.


Constant 24/7 Victimhood & Christians have been persecuted much more through out history, i.e. Bolsheviks killed so many, much much more than the Holocaust


Quote (IceMage @ Jul 4 2024 09:45am)
America first




Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 4 2024 10:00am)
ISIS ? Wtf

Congratulations for not only time travel, but also alternate realities exploration. This is pretty strong to certify that without Israel the middle east would like... Well like ISIS ? Let's push it to the max. "yeah"


Israel / Zionist supporters need a boogyman and victimhood propaganda to constantly drown out criticisms

ISIS was created and supported by CIA, USA armed & trained the Taliban too, mostly in an effort to help push out Russian aggression in the 70's


Quote (IceMage @ Jul 4 2024 09:55am)
If you want to have stupid, naive, America first foreign policy views without being anti-Semitic, it's possible. Look at Goomshill or ofthevoid. :thumbsup:


Let me guess, viewpoints need to be from a Zionist/Jewish perspective, you say anti-Semitic, white supremacy, and whatever other catch phrase the ADL uses, but I think you're simply Anti-American

Notice you have ignored many of the questions posed in the conversation and gloss over things like making Israel register as a foreign agent state to keep our elections in the USA from being subverted.
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Jul 4 2024 10:19am
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Jul 4 2024 06:06pm)
That’s a funny way of saying you can’t back your claim. This is getting boring though, feel free to continue alone.


For everyone reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

Paul the Apostle

Paul of Tarsus, or Saint Paul, who recalls, in the 1st century, in the letter to the Corinthians that

“the head of every man is Christ, that the head of woman is man, and that the head of Christ is God . (…) Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head: she is like one who is shaven. (…) Man must not cover his head, because he is the image of the glory of God, while woman is the glory of man. For man was not taken from woman, but woman from man; and man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman must, because of the angels, have on her head a sign of subjection.” “

Stick to it, and get good.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 4 2024 10:21am
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 4 2024 12:19pm)
For everyone reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

Paul the Apostle

Paul of Tarsus, or Saint Paul, who recalls, in the 1st century, in the letter to the Corinthians that “the head of every man is Christ, that the head of woman is man, and that the head of Christ is God . (…) Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head: she is like one who is shaven. (…) Man must not cover his head, because he is the image of the glory of God, while woman is the glory of man. For man was not taken from woman, but woman from man; and man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why the woman must, because of the angels, have on her head a sign of subjection.” “The veil thus made its entry into monotheism, immediately interpreted as a distinctive element of the feminine gender and a symbol of submission of women to men”

Stick to it, and get good.



You’re only off by 19 centuries.
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Jul 4 2024 06:23pm)
You’re only off by 19 centuries.


Say that to the people who were reading bible in the 1900's. Screwed.
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