I see them as quite different, and I prefer to stick to real potentials rather than getting into hypotheticals.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Apr 10 2024 09:36pm

so you admit its all about punishing the mother? i love when people have mask-off moments like this.
who do you think will really bear the punishment, the mother who is likely living near the poverty level or her child that has drastically lower odds at succeeding in life?
anti-abortion bible thumpers havent EVER given a shit about the babies, its about punishing people for having sex but youre too dense to see the child suffers. is that what you want? more people suffering?
absolutely psychotic religion-fueled delusion

This post was edited by gnarjay on Apr 10 2024 09:30pm

Dude is delusional tbh. Bible thumpers? Doesn’t take that to be anti-abortion for w.e reason the people involved want

"If you insist on your bodily autonomy, we will ruin your livelihood and exclude you from nearly all facets of social life" isn't really much different if you ask me. In some aspects, it's even worse since women from states where abortion is banned can still get the procedure elsewhere and then resume their previous life while those who didn't want to get vaccinated had no way out.

You're of course free to disagree, but I stand by my point. Those who are pro-choice because they ostensibly value bodily autonomy so much while also supporting vaccine mandates, are massive hypocrites.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 10 2024 11:32pm

Perhaps you can take that umbrage up with them.

Didn't know abortion was contagious and lethal to this point. This was a fatal non-sense.

abortionists

Vaccine "mandates" were heavily unenforced in every state, and basically all employers had exemptions in place along with policies stating you could continue without a vaccine as long as you worked remotely or had a negative Covid test every two weeks. The only place that took it semi-seriously was the TSA if you were a non-citizen coming into the US.

Texas, Missouri and Tennessee have also made efforts to ban getting an abortion in other areas. 5 counties in Texas, including Lubbock, have an ordinance that ban people from transporting others along local roads for abortions. Pretty clear signal of their true intentions. I'm sure Florida isn't too far behind considering they attempted to pass a bill to allow adults to kidnap their trans children and prevent them from going across state lines despite custody agreements.

Also bodily autonomy isn't a black and white issue where you believe an individual can do absolutely anything to their body. That's why controlled substance abuse is illegal. It's about making decisions about one's body without undue control or policing. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who believes in a wide spread ban of alcohol just because they believe in bodily autonomy.

Simply untrue. Many corporations eventually asked employees to get vaccinated or potentially lose their jobs. I know people that said no and were let go. I switched jobs in 2022 and I was literally mandated to provide proof of vaccine as pre-requisite for employment. Vaccine mandates were widespread pretty much most of the white collar world.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 11 2024 01:04pm

That is a corporation/employer level and not a state level. CDC and OSHA merely gave out guidelines and employers enacted whatever they saw fit to put in their employee policy, which is their right in a free market such as the US. Federal employees had a mandate but that also had legal exemptions.

This post was edited by MrSK on Apr 11 2024 01:13pm