Haven't been keeping up on this but since you are both experts my question is this.

How does a giant cargo ship about to go out on the open ocean for over a MONTH just have everything go wrong right after they leave port.

Wouldn't the crew hypothetically have done all their safety checks TWICE already?

Everything is all "good" and they are perfectly aligned to clear the bridge and then "power out" / "power on" and what the emergency anchors they dropped when SHTF gets snagged on something and draws the shit perfectly into one of two spots on the bridge that would cause "critical failure".

When you speed up the video is that why it looks like the captain of the ship "spun the wheel" so-to-speak and it made such a hard turn? Emergency anchors snagged?

Sorry if this is all self-explanatory to you both but those are the oddities to me personally that's why I'd like to know more. Thanks!

edit: Was the power failure the reason the ship veered hard in one direction? The emergency anchors? Both? That's my question.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Apr 6 2024 10:22am

I guess shit like this happens once in a blue moon. just like the earth quake in New York. First time in 240 years I believe.

Oh I totally agree that it can happen.

Captain could've been piss drunk and fell while his hand was on one side of the wheel. Smacked his head and passed out and the rest of the crew was playing a game of poker to start their month+ long journey.

"Woohooo boys we get to get away from the wifeys let's get this game of poker started. Hey Johnny get us out to sea and then one of us will come up and take the reigns"

"Johhny did you hear me!!!! Johnny! Johnnny! SMACKKKKKKK!"

Obviously I'm joking but I mean it could be that fucking silly

edit: What's not funny is people died and there should be a thorough investigation of the crew and the equipment. Is it true they haven't released the "black box"??

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Apr 6 2024 11:10am

Ghot isn't an "expert," and neither am I. But I do have a wealth of experience in ship handling. He's acting like shipboard generators easily switch on like a UPS does on land, but that isn't true. My last post included a link for the procedures one must follow to engage a generator on a ship. The only thing that is inexplicable to me is why both main generators weren't in operation during critical maneuvering. It's totally normal to operate just one while underway, but you don't have margins for error in restricted navigation.

Any number of reasons can explain the power loss. Contaminated fuel. Poor maintenance. Mechanical failure. Once you lose power, getting it back up is not instant. Once you lose power, you lose propulsion. Shortly after losing propulsion, you will lose steering control. The ship had some momentum, and was certainly carried by the current. Normally when you drop anchor, you are in reverse. Dropping it while moving forward will yaw the bow to the side the anchor is dropped, which is what we observed. In a flowing channel, you will need the whole anchor chain laying on the bottom, in a line, to hold the vessel. If there's a current on a ship displacing 148000 tons, the anchor may not be enough.

This post was edited by Santara on Apr 6 2024 02:13pm

Ok that makes a lot more sense thanks for clearing that up for me, appreciate it!

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. seems very well placed when we're talking about a cargo ship hitting a random bridge in a 2nd tier city of the USA. if this was new york during rush hour, ok lets entertain some tinfoil. but baltimore at night? was just a comedy of errors.

The only thing like that I would remotely consider is China hacking it somehow. But the witness stories don't line up with that at all.

most of the "it looks fishy" observations have crumbled under the expert testimony ive read.

"it turned for the pillar", no it powerlessly drifted from the current.

"what boat doesnt have generators", they did.

"the smoke looks wrong", thats the engines refiring.

"why have the throttle maxed", at that point it was the only chance of avoiding collision.

thousands of large ships travel thousands of large waterways daily, every once and a while accidents will happen. the low deathtoll is a good thing thankfully.

"Expert" testimony.
It powered up and down several times.
Power off: drifted
Power on: turned straight for the bridge each time

I don't need anyone to tell me different.
I seended it with my own eyeballs.

This whole thing a distraction anyway.

When was your last eye check? lol

you can watch as it veers when the lights go out, and then tries and fails to veer back when lights return on before the collision.

sometimes i think your crowd just repeats stuff so many times you believe it.