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Feb 7 2024 06:25pm
Quote (jspolice @ Feb 7 2024 03:15pm)
This is exactly the problem. There won't be any probing questions. Putin knows he won't be really challenged on anything, he knows Tucker will treat him as an ally because he needs to remain relevant.


If you think the reason Tucker is conducting this interview is to stay relevant, you must also be fair and apply this standard to all the correspondents of news media in the West that there ever are. Someone wants to have an interview with someone important? He is trying to stay relevant and all his interviews are rehearsed and staged!!

Your characterization of Tucker is very unfair. I hope you realize this.

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It's a calculated win for both of them: One gets to spread their propaganda on a western platform, the other one maintains relevant.


Can you prove that it's propaganda, or is it just your opinion?
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If it was a serious journalist, asking Putin to justify his war that cost so many innocent lives and plunged the world into chaos,


These aren't probing questions, they are pointed questions. You are entering into the interview with the mindset that Putin is your enemy.

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hitting him with critical questions and pushback, that would be interesting at least. Just platforming his bullshit and disinformation, though? Irresponsible and cynical.


What about the stuff that is being shown on Western media? I am guess it's all non-bullshit and non-disinfo, because you agree with it.

Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 03:34pm)
why are you working overtime to defend Putin?


You seem to think in terms of us versus them. Anybody who's not rabidly pro-West must be pro-Putin.

You just showed us how your mind works, haha.
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Feb 7 2024 06:29pm
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You seem to think in terms of us versus them. Anybody who's not rabidly pro-West must be pro-Putin.

You just showed us how your mind works, haha.


except this dude is literally pro-Putin, read his words jessi


also, Tucker isnt even a fucking journalist. he was a conservative mouthpiece that was fired for lying about Jan 6/Dominion voting machines and got his boss into a 700 million dollar lawsuit that they lost
you think hes some non-biased truth hunter? lol you are too easily beguiled if thats the case
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 8 2024 12:41am)
Why are you working overtime to promote the theft of the wealth of US Taxpayers and give it to Ukraine without even understanding what the conflict is about?

The fact is that all this hand-wringing over Tucker sitting down for an interview with Putin is bound to cause support for the current Administration to fall even farther than it already has. And Progressives are terrified that their wargames will be brought to an abrupt end when the new Administration enters office. :)



So let's see, you've judged, without hearing what anyone other than Kiev has had to say, that Russia is bad. Yet if you were to ask the officials of the Donbas Republics, Crimea, and Russia, it would seem that Ukraine is guilty of crimes against humanity, and the active aggressor.

Welcome to both JSP and PARD, btw. Unusual to see a person posting in PARD within a day of joining the site. Wouldn't be a multi, would you?


I don't give a flying fuck about what Kyiv says, it's also propaganda. But I know it's Russia who started this war and plunged the world into chaos. The Donbass Republics excuse is bullshit. Those Russia-aligned and paid officials are the ones that started the conflict by inviting Russian forces onto Ukrainian territory btw. Russian troops, though undercover at that point, were operating on Ukrainian territory long before the current war escalated officially. Putin admitted that himself btw. Why are you spreading Russian propaganda here? Are you a member of Putin's troll farms targeting western social media, or are you just living up to your name?
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Feb 7 2024 06:39pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 17:29)
except this dude is literally pro-Putin, read his words jessi

also, Tucker isnt even a fucking journalist. he was a conservative mouthpiece that was fired for lying about Jan 6/Dominion voting machines and got his boss into a 700 million dollar lawsuit that they lost
you think hes some non-biased truth hunter? lol you are too easily beguiled if thats the case


Who is pro-Putin exactly, and why would you believe that?

Russia is a sovereign nation of 143 million people. They have their own goals and agendas. People who claim to know their motivations without even bothering to talk to them are not to be trusted. Ever.

What you'll find far more accurate is to say that the split when it comes to Ukraine, from the American posters in PARD, is that those who actively support Ukraine are pro-War and the theft of American wealth to gift to a foreign nation that we have no ties to. Those who're questioning the propaganda of Ukraine and the Biden Administration tend to be the Anti-War crowd who believe that American wealth should be used to improve the lives of Americans. Note: Had Trump's Administration tried sending hundreds of billions in US wealth to Ukraine in exactly the same way? My opinion would not shift in the slightest, and I'd say exactly the same thing I am now. I don't give a shit about Putin, or Biden, or even Trump. What I care about is MY nation, and actions taken by our government to make us poorer, weaker, and put us at odds with our own business partners to the point of war are 100% harmful to MY nation.

As to Tucker, your opinion is irrelevant. The fact that he hosted people on his show who accused private companies of utilizing their propriety machines to swing our election and asked direct questions pertaining to their claims supports him being a true journalist. Firing him from Fox News for doing so shows that Fox News is not interested in real journalism. You don't get rid of bad ideas by hiding them. You get rid of bad ideas by exposing them and showing their fallacies. Note that Tucker's audience is larger today than it ever was with Fox News. In many ways, being separated from Fox News and partnering with Musk has been the greatest thing that's happened in Tucker's very long career. :)

Quote (jspolice @ 7 Feb 2024 17:38)
I don't give a flying fuck about what Kyiv says, it's also propaganda. But I know it's Russia who started this war and plunged the world into chaos. The Donbass Republics excuse is bullshit. Those Russia-aligned and paid officials are the ones that started the conflict by inviting Russian forces onto Ukrainian territory btw. Russian troops, though undercover at that point, were operating on Ukrainian territory long before the current war escalated officially. Putin admitted that himself btw. Why are you spreading Russian propaganda here? Are you a member of Putin's troll farms targeting western social media, or are you just living up to your name?


When you dismiss the sovereignty of the Donbas Republics, but acknowledge the 2014 coup that overthrew the legitimate Ukrainian government, everything else you say is nonsensical.

Note: This "war" wouldn't have lasted more than a week if the US and NATO were not supporting Ukraine. It's the endless funds and weapons that have kept it going, and prevented Zelenski from talking peace. And Zelenski and all of his Administration have been pocketing massive amounts of that support rather than using it in their war effort. All indications point to Zelenski continuing the war against the Republics until funding stops or Ukraine runs out of men to throw into the meat grinder. After one or the other events occur, it's highly likely the entire Administration disappears, completely, from Ukraine, and sets up shop as billionaires elsewhere.

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Feb 7 2024 06:40pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 04:29pm)
except this dude is literally pro-Putin, read his words jessi


Then prove he is pro-Putin.

Hopefully this exercise will make you realize you can't and the reason is that what you just spouted was an opinion, a worthless one at that.

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also, Tucker isnt even a fucking journalist. he was a conservative mouthpiece that was fired for lying about Jan 6/Dominion voting machines and got his boss into a 700 million dollar lawsuit that they lost


First of all, prove that Tucker was a mouthpiece. Secondly, so what they lost a big lawsuit? In today's political climate, anybody who does not align with the official narratives is harassed and hunted down by the Left. There was Alex Jones and now there is Tucker. You really think their being fucked with by the Left means anything?

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you think hes some non-biased truth hunter? lol you are too easily beguiled if thats the case


Did I say Tucker was a truth hunter, or did you just put words in my mouth? All I want is for him to conduct this interview, and let us see it. But somehow this translates in your brain into me thinking he's a truth hunter. Why do you insist on putting your shitty little negative spins on every single damn thing?
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Feb 7 2024 06:43pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 04:39pm)
Note that Tucker's audience is larger today than it ever was with Fox News. In many ways, being separated from Fox News and partnering with Musk has been the greatest thing that's happened in Tucker's very long career. :)


I bet this hurts 's feelings.
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Feb 7 2024 06:50pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Feb 7 2024 04:43pm)
I bet this hurts ^gnarjay 's feelings.


yeah, im so upset that some trust fund conservative who was born rich is still rich, ooooowweeee! im so mad ! :rofl:

no one with a brain gives a fuck about tucker carlson
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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 04:50pm)

no one with a brain gives a fuck about tucker carlson


This is not true. You have been crying over him for the past couple of pages.
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Feb 7 2024 06:53pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 17:50)
no one with a brain gives a fuck about tucker carlson


If you don't care, why are you so upset that he's sitting down for an interview with the President of a foreign nation?

Seems ol' Tucker lives rent free in your head, fren.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Feb 8 2024 01:25am)
If you think the reason Tucker is conducting this interview is to stay relevant, you must also be fair and apply this standard to all the correspondents of news media in the West that there ever are. Someone wants to have an interview with someone important? He is trying to stay relevant and all his interviews are rehearsed and staged!!

Your characterization of Tucker is very unfair. I hope you realize this.



Can you prove that it's propaganda, or is it just your opinion?


These aren't probing questions, they are pointed questions. You are entering into the interview with the mindset that Putin is your enemy.



What about the stuff that is being shown on Western media? I am guess it's all non-bullshit and non-disinfo, because you agree with it.


You just showed us how your mind works, haha.


That is exactly what corporate media is. The fight for viewership and relevance. No exception. Glad you realized it, even if it's by accident.

Most of American media has pushed their war propaganda before. They are no objective source on the issue. Unlike your premature assumption, however, I did not suggest they interview Putin. I said a "serious journalist", meaning one with integrity and a track record of critical reporting. You seem to be stuck in a very dichotomous pattern of thinking. In reality, rejecting obvious Russian war propaganda does not imply embracing American war propaganda.

The facts of the matter are pretty clear: Russia invaded a sovereign nation, and countless innocent people died. The world economy took a major hit. Russia wasn't trying to "liberate" anyone. In fact, they completely destroyed those regions. They came to conquer all of Ukraine. They attack civilian infrastructure far away from Donbass and Crimea. Their excuses are bullshit, and I feel sorry for anyone who can't see that.

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