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Dec 24 2023 04:05pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Dec 24 2023 09:54pm)
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the issue is not that his views are extreme, its that his views are extreme AND supported by the moderating team on this website. as evidenced, in this thread, when someone that called him out, was then sanctioned, by said moderating team. it was the same in the russia thread when a multi said something similar and the person that called him out was sanctioned. supporting hate speech is really out there as far as I am concerned, yet here we are.

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the issue is not that his views are extreme, its that his views are extreme AND supported by the moderating team on this website. as evidenced, in this thread, when someone that called him out, was then sanctioned, by said moderating team. it was the same in the russia thread when a multi said something similar and the person that called him out was sanctioned. supporting hate speech is really out there as far as I am concerned, yet here we are.


My views might be unpopular, but they are not hate speech. They are not extreme, either. Sounds like you are exposed to someone who thinks different things than you do, hate it, so you want them banned.

Also, nobody is sanctioning anything. Insults are against the rules on this site. Sorry that you didn't know this.

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My views might be unpopular, but they are not hate speech. They are not extreme, either. Sounds like you are exposed to someone who thinks different things than you do, hate it, so you want them banned.


the fact that you deny the holocaust and dont believe its hate speech when you spin this narrative just means you are uneducated, ignorant or stupid. This is not a personal attack it is merely posting a fact. Your world view does not accept basic facts its as simple as that. Do you think the world is flat as well?

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the fact that you deny the holocaust and dont believe its hate speech when you spin this narrative just means you are uneducated, ignorant or stupid. This is not a personal attack it is merely posting a fact.


Then prove that it's hate speech.

Also, calling me those things isn't stating a fact. They are opinions. But I am not surprised that you can't tell opinion from fact, :)

Lastly, holocaust denial triggers you. Good to know.
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Dec 24 2023 04:25pm
Trump isnt dangerous at all, he is too stupid to be a threat to anyone.
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Then prove that it's hate speech.

Also, calling me those things isn't stating a fact. They are opinions. But I am not surprised that you can't tell opinion from fact, :)

Lastly, holocaust denial triggers you. Good to know.


Holocaust denial is beyond stupid.

My grandpa executed jews in concentration camps himself- he had to or he would have been dead himself. Theres no question. This absolutely happened.
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Holocaust denial is beyond stupid.

My grandpa executed jews in concentration camps himself- he had to or he would have been dead himself. Theres no question. This absolutely happened.


From your perspective. But for me, no. What you are telling me is hearsay. I don't know you or your grandfather.

Anyway, I am not even trying to prove that holocaust didn't happen. I am just pointing out the ridiculous behavior of one side of people. They won't allow room for debate and call people who ask questions evil or hateful or stupid or whatever. This is what I have a problem with.
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Dec 24 2023 04:36pm
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From your perspective. But for me, no. What you are telling me is hearsay. I don't know you or your grandfather.

Anyway, I am not even trying to prove that holocaust didn't happen. I am just pointing out the ridiculous behavior of one side of people. They won't allow room for debate and call people who ask questions evil or hateful or stupid or whatever. This is what I have a problem with.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eristic
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do photos count though?


There are pictures, videos, journals, diaries, german army documents, ss documents, sa documents responsibility taken by the German government and payment for the survivors as compensation.
But he can debate it because he didnt saw it with his own eyes.

When I discuss a person that makes no sense I simply ignore him.
He enjoys the attention for what ever psychological reasons happened in his childhood and he takes it out on
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Then the problem is, you can call anybody who ever engages in any kind of discussion "eristic". That would not get us far, would it?

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