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Dec 22 2023 05:36pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 03:31pm)




Yes, calling me an asshole for calling a trans woman sir....this is exactly the kind of things I am resentful about. Why should I be subjected to this treatment just because I called a man for what he is, a man? Why do I have to abide by someone's preferred pronouns or else face abuse?


if you mistakenly call someone the wrong pronoun, that is different. if someone corrects you and you still refuse to do what they are asking, you are an asshole. if you think being called an asshole is "abuse", then clearly you can understand why someone being called the wrong thing on purpose is offensive...YOU actually would call it abuse

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We are in a thread talking about trannies and for some reason you felt the need to mention right wingers. They seem to really trigger you.


youre whining about conformity, right wingers demand ultimate conformity. do you still want to deflect from that or are you going to address the hypocrisy of your post?
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 03:26pm)
So let's say you call somebody him, and are corrected by them to say they want to be referred to as her. What do you do? You don't have a right to demand their medical records. You don't know their biological sex at birth. Maybe they're detransitioning? Maybe they aren't trans at all. Maybe they are trans. You have no idea!


The fact that we even have contend with these sorts of things makes me realize how sick our world is. Apparently when I talk to someone new I have to wonder if they are "detransitioning" or whether they are "trans". Peak level clown world, I tell you. 20 years ago it wasn't like this.

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So when HR calls you in and says "why are you referring to them as a he, when they've told you they are a her"

What is your response? That you know their biology better than they do? That you should be able to call anybody whatever pronoun you want?

Have fun with that.


I don't presume to know someone's biology better than they do; however it is very obvious when it's a biological man having delusions about being a woman and insisting that I go along with his lunacy. No. I will not.

You make me sound like I am being unreasonable. I am not. When I see a man, I call him sir. When I see a woman, I call her ma'am. If the HR has a problem with that, then it's simply too bad. For them to force me to go with someone's gender-confusion or risk discipline, I can argue that they are harassing me, and in a sense, they are.
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Dec 22 2023 05:40pm
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Why even play this pronoun game when you could just call them a faggot and cover all the pronouns with one word? Plus, that’s what they actually are.
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Dec 22 2023 05:40pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 05:39pm)
The fact that we even have contend with these sorts of things makes me realize how sick our world is. Apparently when I talk to someone new I have to wonder if they are "detransitioning" or whether they are "trans". Peak level clown world, I tell you. 20 years ago it wasn't like this.

I don't presume to know someone's biology better than they do; however it is very obvious when it's a biological man having delusions about being a woman and insisting that I go along with his lunacy. No. I will not.

You make me sound like I am being unreasonable. I am not. When I see a man, I call him sir. When I see a woman, I call her ma'am. If the HR has a problem with that, then it's simply too bad. For them to force me to go with someone's gender-confusion or risk discipline, I can argue that they are harassing me, and in a sense, they are.


So your position is that you have 100% accuracy when determining the sex somebody was born as?
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Dec 22 2023 05:40pm
Just to clarify, I do not have a problem with the LGBTQ community, but I fail to see why they should be celebrated just for being LGBTQ. I do not think I should be required to celebrate another person's life simply because they have different sexual proclivities.
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Dec 22 2023 05:42pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 22 2023 03:36pm)
if you mistakenly call someone the wrong pronoun, that is different. if someone corrects you and you still refuse to do what they are asking, you are an asshole. if you think being called an asshole is "abuse", then clearly you can understand why someone being called the wrong thing on purpose is offensive...YOU actually would call it abuse


Why is it abuse to call a man "sir"?

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youre whining about conformity, right wingers demand ultimate conformity. do you still want to deflect from that or are you going to address the hypocrisy of your post?


Lmao, first you say I am "whining", and now you call my post "hypocrisy". I can see that this exchange is clearly getting to you. Relax. The world will not end if someone on a remote corner of the internet does not want to call a trans woman ma'am.
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So your position is that you have 100% accuracy when determining the sex somebody was born as?


Nope. But I do say that it's very clear when it's a dude who entertains thoughts that he's a woman, lol.
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Quote (Smiles15 @ Dec 22 2023 05:40pm)
Just to clarify, I do not have a problem with the LGBTQ community, but I fail to see why they should be celebrated just for being LGBTQ. I do not think I should be required to celebrate another person's life simply because they have different sexual proclivities.


To actually answer your question.

It's called pride because for a long time it was forced to be shameful. They were forced to hide and never tell others of a core part of their identity. Pride is about getting out and being open, rather than hiding in shame.

Used to be cops would raid gay bars and arrest everybody inside for being gay. Now they just crash their cars into them and arrest the owners. Progress!
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 05:43pm)
Nope. But I do say that it's very clear when it's a dude who entertains thoughts that he's a woman, lol.


So what's your actual success rate, and how would you know if HR is making you call a female "sir", or if you're mistaken?
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Dec 22 2023 05:46pm
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So what's your actual success rate, and how would you know if HR is making you call a female "sir", or if you're mistaken?


Cases where one sex looks like the other sex are quite rare and most of the times they are pathological. Not the same thing.

Most of the time, people can tell it's a dude, I don't know why you don't get this.
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