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Nov 15 2023 12:10pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 15 2023 10:04am)
maybe not? plz elaborate... like as an invasive species?


they're hellbent on merciless destruction of the environment, are massive beasts that have no natural predators and are unstoppable without human intervention

Texas and other places will actually pay you to kill them

they are indeed an invasive species, many such examples exist of invasive species that will absolutely destroy their environments, down to nothing at all, if humans did not intervene
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maybe not? plz elaborate... like as an invasive species?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/world/asia/radioactive-boars-in-fukushima-thwart-residents-plans-to-return-home.html

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Nov 15 2023 12:11pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 15 2023 09:45am)
You can call it whatever you want but culture stems from religion.


please go back and get your highschool diploma
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Nov 15 2023 12:13pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 15 2023 06:28pm)
honestly the dam issue has me halted a bit. bad example, lol but your comment about what we build from being "natural" is stupid. we use natural materials for nuclear power which creates toxic waste. that toxic waste would not exist if it wasnt for humans. therefore is not natural.
i think a beaver dam is natural because of its scale and the amount of disruption (which compared to humans is minimal) is creates in the ecosystem it belongs to. the water it retains was already there and the beaver needs his home.

the difference somewhat lies in the idea that we built a dam to generate electricity. something we use as "luxuries" but is also something we dont actually need to survive. thats what i was getting at before with the idea that we run on $$...

we cant eat money...


What you call "luxuries" is something we achieved through centuries of hard work and studying NATURE. Electricity is way more than just luxury. Its the main reason for our progression as a species.
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Quote (El1te @ Nov 15 2023 01:10pm)
they're hellbent on merciless destruction of the environment, are massive beasts that have no natural predators and are unstoppable without human intervention

Texas and other places will actually pay you to kill them

they are indeed an invasive species, many such examples exist of invasive species that will absolutely destroy their environments, down to nothing at all, if humans did not intervene


ever think that they have no natural predators because humans push them all aside, and are the only ones left with the power do to anything about it?

its pretty nuts to think that an animal is bent on destroying the environment, rather then simply trying to survive in the environment they currently find themselves in.

pretty sure most invasive species exist because of effects created by humans...

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 15 2023 01:13pm)
What you call "luxuries" is something we achieved through centuries of hard work and studying NATURE. Electricity is way more than just luxury. Its the main reason for our progression as a species.


i never said it wasnt. and this is why i say that you cannot eat your money... you use money to buy food. money is technically not what you need.

same for electricity. the luxury is the furnace in your basement. what you need is a certain temperature to survive, not the electricity itself. we didnt get layers of fur like other animals and therefore require shelter. like the beavers, lol

our brains (which was given to us by nature) have given us the ability to use science to our benefit and make every day life easier. we need electricty to run lightbulbs. i dont need light at night to survive, but it sure helps.

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Quote (Bazi @ 15 Nov 2023 12:01)
Yeah I was being facetious when I was arguing extremes earlier tbh

I overall believe in moderation and hope we can be citizens of team human, earth, and science simultaneously


Yea we all hope that'd be the case but ask yourself this.

When the military tests nuclear weapons or carries out a psychological experiment or a myriad of other "morally questionable" acts in the name of "Science" NONE of us get a say in any of it as a civilian because the average "human being" is against detonating nuclear warheads in the ocean and killing wildlife on a mass scale. So they can blow up a hole in the magnetosphere with no consequence what else have they been "testing" behind the scenes.

If you were asked these questions you'd probably say "no thank you"

1) Open air biological experiment above your town

2) Detonation of a nuclear warhead above your state/country

3) Detonate nuclear warhead in the ocean iviscoarating life incalculable.

No civilian gets to vote on this our governments simply do this without accountability and resposibilty because they can in the name of "Science".

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Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 15 2023 10:13am)
ever think that they have no natural predators because humans push them all aside, and are the only ones left with the power do to anything about it?

its pretty nuts to think that an animal is bent on destroying the environment, rather then simply trying to survive in the environment they currently find themselves in.

pretty sure most invasive species exist because of effects created by humans...


they have no natural predators because they're massive powerful wild hogs that will eat absolutely anything and everything with a ravenous unsatiable hunger. There are no tigers around North America but even if there were even they would think twice before going for a massive wild hog. Cougars won't mess with them.
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Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 15 2023 12:11pm)
please go back and get your highschool diploma


Says the uncultured numbskull.
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Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 15 2023 10:21am)
Says the uncultured numbskull.


culture did not come from religion, please do yourself a favor and get an education
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