I would suggest that you don't reject God entirely because of the Catholic church. The Catholic church is but a worldly institution, created by man and prone to corruption and heresy. You're a smart guy and you are right to realize there is alot of rot within the Catholic church and traditions and practices which are heretical and act against God's mercy. My ancestors recognized this over 400 years ago and an entire body of literature has been written on the topic regarding the true message of Jesus.

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 8 2023 11:38pm

if anything, it made me realize you dont need an institution to have a relationship with god.
I think jesus is an interesting dude philosophically and there is tremendous value in most of his teachings but I dont really think he was real in the sense that he died for the world's sins and is the one true savior. he's just a mythological figure not unlike the hindu or norse or navajo gods...he's just a more popular one.
tl;dr its a good, moral story that helps people stay in line...not too different from most other religious figures/stories. the church is another story....

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 8 2023 11:57pm

It doesn't matter if jesus was a real human or not.

It's the true teaching of jesus that matter.

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You need to ask yourself, Why is it that all these anti-religious groups & Satanist, Luciferians etc, all hate jesus.

You have to figure that out on your own.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 9 2023 12:09am

its not even worth trying to understand

why do people think covid was fake?
why do people think the earth is flat?
why do actual christians vote for someone like trump?

some things just arent worth the time to think about, ya know?

If it's not worth trying to understand why antagonize people about jesus.
Doesn't that mean you don't understand what you're saying and thus doing?

Who do you worship and who is telling you to say the things you do.

when people who claim to believe in jesus also have and share hateful ideas that directly conflict with christian beliefs, i like to annoy them. theres not many things i hate more than hypocrites

So then you see the hypocrisy of having sex and then skirting responsibility via abortion?

I understand your way of thinking but dont you agree that the person who is ultimately punished is the baby?

think about it, your "consequence" (read:punishment) of a woman "skirting" responsibility is forcing them to bring a human into the world. you dont realize how fucked up that is?
do you think that baby is going to be loved? or taken care of? or wanted? lets say the child is taken away and put into the foster care system...do you have any idea of how horribly foster kids are treated?
do you know about statistics at all for kids in the foster care system? sexual/mental/physical abuse, or the kids that age out of the system and are thrown into the real world with next to nothing. do you want more of these people in society ?

do you still think forcing someone who doesnt want a child to begin with into motherhood is a good thing for the mother or the child? it isnt.

the only result is more suffering but it actually seems like thats what you want. you want the baby to suffer for the mom's "sin". its fucking insane !
women should have a choice. if you dont like abortions, cool, dont get one

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 9 2023 01:32am

I am an atheist, so you could say I reject Jesus.

The truth is, I do not reject or antagonize Jesus, I just think he didnt exist in the biblical sense. But there is no hate involved at all.
Religious people often misinterpret what atheists - or people who think different in general - want to bring across.

I think that religion in general does more harm than good. Religious people take so much responsability away from them, they devalue themselves and also justify things through their baseless believes.
Religious people thank god when something good happens, but blame themselves when something bad happens. Its never god, never the one who created everything. Its a strange and extremely devote relationship, a fictional bond.
They oftentimes use this bond to justify horrible actions or stay on the spot instead of progressing or evolving. Religion is stationary. Scripture is there and its gods alleged word, so there is no room for progression or development. Thats a problem.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Nov 9 2023 03:12am

The right to kill another human >> the right for the other human to live.




Fantastic moral standing.