China got it right .

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 7 2023 02:48pm

Israel far right government is chocking Palestine's economy since decades.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/gaef3574.doc.htm

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The text mentions several Israeli violations of international law, including the exploitation of mineral resources in the West Bank, the prevention of Palestinian access to these resources, the expansion of illegal settlements, the building of the wall, the demolition of Palestinian homes, the forced displacement of Palestinian civilians, and the denial of Palestinian access to their natural resources. Additionally, Israel has withheld permits for Palestinian companies in Zone C since 1994, and has denied Palestinian access to water and energy resources on their own lands and in coastal waters. These actions are considered discriminatory policies in violation of international law.

According to the content, the continuing blockade and import ban on raw materials in Gaza seeks to "almost annihilate the export sector", which exacerbates the high level of unemployment and poverty in the region. The text also states that 60% of the population in Gaza live below the poverty line. Therefore, it can be inferred that the continuing blockade and import ban on raw materials have a significant impact on the poverty level in Gaza.


Yeah, it's fascism. Including "accusing others of what you are doing".

/e I guess that not all Israelis are like this, many are voting left, and fear is influencing others. And engineered, planned fear.
They can say "but you don't know how it is to live here" or "they want to kill us"... But after decades no one believe this anymore, or at least nor totally:

The whole world has a pretty poor opinion toward this country now. The lastest international polls are no longer published because it is ashaming: when you see that Israel is becoming as popular as Iran or North Korea, something is definitly broken lol.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 7 2023 03:14pm

You’re entitled to your opinion but I did specify that I’m taking about how the conservative israelis are mishandling this. Many Jews want to find a peaceful solution. Heck I’m pretty sure some would welcome sharing the “holy land.” But the hardliners won’t. Your writing makes it seem like you think I’m somehow frustrated with all israelis/Jews. I’m not. It’s the people who want to somehow pretend that they’re not all genetically related human beings. Also…. It’s easy to be a suicide bomber when you have nothing left to lose. Sorry you had to deal with that but you clearly didn’t spend enough time to empathize with all sides of that situation.

"Palestinians" economy is based on having paychecks from Iran to Hamas as a proxy to eliminate and murder any Israeli they can. i live here. been to Gaza, Lebanon, Syria.. saw shit you can dream of.

i don't need clowns to link me with idiotic, fetched links that even consider Palestinians as something. those are people from Jordan, Egypt, some from Saudi Arabia. i can find my own porn dude..

im familiar d2jsp is full with pretentious trolls that remains safe behind their screen and keyboard and could not last an hour in an Israeli border. everything in your post can be deflected back, im just not
the right guy to fight keyboard wars, i just lived here my entire life and im familiar with everything you guys copy paste from the internet or watching on late news.

Sorry, i just edited my previous post, alot of typos:


Israel far right government is chocking Palestine's economy since decades.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/gaef3574.doc.htm

=>

The text mentions several Israeli violations of international law, including the exploitation of mineral resources in the West Bank, the prevention of Palestinian access to these resources, the expansion of illegal settlements, the building of the wall, the demolition of Palestinian homes, the forced displacement of Palestinian civilians, and the denial of Palestinian access to their natural resources. Additionally, Israel has withheld permits for Palestinian companies in Zone C since 1994, and has denied Palestinian access to water and energy resources on their own lands and in coastal waters. These actions are considered discriminatory policies in violation of international law.

According to the content, the continuing blockade and import ban on raw materials in Gaza seeks to "almost annihilate the export sector", which exacerbates the high level of unemployment and poverty in the region. The text also states that 60% of the population in Gaza live below the poverty line. Therefore, it can be inferred that the continuing blockade and import ban on raw materials have a significant impact on the poverty level in Gaza.


Yeah, it's fascism. Including "accusing others of what you are doing".

/e I guess that not all Israelis are like this, many are voting left, and fear is influencing others. And engineered, planned fear.
They can say "but you don't know how it is to live here" or "they want to kill us"... But after decades no one believe this anymore, or at least nor totally:

The whole world has a pretty poor opinion toward this country now. The lastest international polls are no longer published because it is ashaming: when you see that Israel is becoming as popular as Iran or North Korea, something is definitly broken lol.

there is no peaceful solution with human beings that see you as a dead meat unless you are not a radical jihadist as they are.

most* of the people in Gaza are not waging war against Israel. they simply allowed it by giving up thier freedom to be an Iranian puppets, doing everything in their power to decapitate us.

most people like you (outsiders) are not even familiar with the fact that we live around Arabs inside Israel. most of them are peaceful and regular dudes. prey, work.. w\e.. live your life and let me live mine.

this is not the case with Gaza, Hezbollah and mainly - Iran. they hate us more than they like their own life.

do you math. Israelis wet dream is peace with everyone around them. the other side.. well, exactly the opposite.

despite being divided israel is their common enemy

there are some people like bin salman, who want better relations with israel, but thats not the mainstream

what i mean that israel cant level gaza or expel people without having egypt and the other neighbors declare war

right now israel has to decide how important the hostages are



you are talking to the classic western liberal leftie, who claims to know more about places from propaganda press articles than guys, who actually are/were there

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Oct 7 2023 03:19pm

Like I said before , this will put USA in a very difficult position and EU as well, they are still tied down in Ukraine.

That being said, I think USA have some sort of defense agreement with Israel?

So any miscalculation will be rather grim. USA elections is next year.
So , if Palestinians is pushed out of Gaza and the region destabilized, Uncle Sugar comes in.

This will be a long season.........global economy not doing great...we are in am extremely precarious situation.

i know nothing about Canada. i know nothing about U.S.A ( i do have family in Seattle ). i know nothing about most countries in the world.

i served for more than 5 years it does not matter what i did, what matters is -
iv been to places ( Syria, Lebanon, Gaza ) and more places i will not mention.
so i know a LOT about stuff that iv been and seen.
also been 3 years in Thailand.
and that's about it.

i don't take any western classic or w\e u just said. im a regular Israeli guy that can tell you the reality* of Israel\Gaza and those issues that's about it.
my point of view is not about Israel is the holy land and Jews are entitled to everything, fuck all that.

what always surprises me - is how much information people "know" about the middle east and\or Palestinians-Israel stuff, but most of them never been here. never saw the bank or Israel
so how the hell they can even understand it ? they can't. they only think they can.. like linking me to some shit about violating international laws.
the minute Gaza bend over to be an Iranian proxy, it's a violation for every Israeli out here.

This post was edited by darksoho on Oct 7 2023 03:32pm

You are absolutely right, there is a couple of usual suspects on Pard who thinks they know everything. You will know who they are soon.